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Re: KENNY - McGRILLIS - Queensland
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 09 June 13 02:35 BST (UK) »
This name change from Hugh to John is still bugging me  :-[

1860/C736   Jane  McGillis  Hugh   Elisabeth Kenny ----- birth of last child

Unclaimed letter for John McGrillis, Rockhampton 1862 ----

So he must have changed from Hugh to John between 1860 and 1862  ???

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Re: KENNY - McGRILLIS - Queensland
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 09 June 13 08:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone for all the lookups and info.  You are all soooo amazingly helpful   :D

The informant on Hugh/John's death cert was Timothy Cranby, landlord of the house in which he died - William St, Rockhampton.  So unfortunately no clues there  >:(

Sadly it seems like he died with no family around him.  Cause of death - old age, debility, and alcoholism.

Would love to find what happened to his daughters - Mary b. 1855 and Jane b. 1860 and his wife Elizabeth.

Can someone tell me if it is possible that they died and their deaths were not recorded?

Thanks,
Marg
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Re: KENNY - McGRILLIS - Queensland
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 09 June 13 12:36 BST (UK) »
Marg,

It sounds like you have a copy or transcription of Hugh & Elizabeth's marriage certificate in 1853.  I was in at the Qld Family History Society today and while I was there had a look on the early church microfilms for the marriage but I couldn't find it but they are difficult films to use.  If you have got a copy could you please let me know what identification numbers were on the document as I would like to find it plus he sister's marriage.

I also did a global search on the Qld Government Gazettes and Police Gazettes but nothing new popped up apart from more unclaimed letters at Tambo in October 1879 and Rockhampton after his death.  Hugh/John moved around a fair bit including Ipswich, Gayndah, Walloon, Langton, Tambo & Rockhampton plus probably other places.  I'm surprised we can't find a death registration for his wife maybe she is buried at one of the locations mentioned above. 

30% of male convicts in the 1830s arrived with tattoos.

Gerry

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Re: KENNY - McGRILLIS - Queensland
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 09 June 13 13:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Gerry,
Thanks for your generous offer.

NSW Marriage details for Elizabeth Kenney and Hugh Mcgrillis are -
V1853579 99/1853
The (proposed) NSW marriage details for Bridget Kenney and John McCullough are -
V1854648 81/1854
The (proposed) NSW death details for Bridget McCullough are -
5821/1898

I wonder what drew Hugh & Elizabeth to Qld from Sydney, it was such a long way back then.  Do you have any ideas?

Interestingly, their daughter Anne b. 1858 Qld, married 1878 in Sydney at the age of 19 and had to be given approval from the Guardian of Minors.  Both her parents were mentioned in the marriage details so I assume Elizabeth was alive then.  Therefore she must have died between 1878 and 1884 as Hugh/John died as a widower.

Your help is much appreciated,
Marg
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Re: KENNY - McGRILLIS - Queensland
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 12 June 13 09:51 BST (UK) »
Marg,

There were 2 Bridget Kenny marriages around the 1850s

Bridget Kenney & John McCullough on 31st January 1854 in the Presbyterian Church of Scotland Scots Church Sydney.

Bridget Kenny & Joseph Ward on 14th August 1850 at St Mary's Roman Catholic Church Sydney.

For this marriage Bridget would have only been off the ship a couple of weeks, but it was the same Church as her sister's wedding later on,
 
Gerry

 

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Re: KENNY - McGRILLIS - Queensland
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 13 June 13 09:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Gerry,

Thanks so much for not giving up. Greatly appreciate it.

I had the same thoughts that Bridget might marry in the Roman Catholic church that was where Bridget's sister Elizabeth married in 1853 but there is nothing that matches her. 

I have thought it through and think Bridget might have married after her sister moved to QLD, otherwise Elizabeth would have known her married name and not addressed her ad in the SMH to Bridget KENNY.

I have checked out all Bridget KENNY marriages and corresponding deaths on NSW BDM with Trove and Ancestry and seem to have discounted all except for the following -
**  Marriage - V1854648 81/1854  MCCULLOUGH  JOHN  KENNEY  BRIDGET  QC  -  Presbyterian Sydney, Scots Church (Pitt Street)   - 31 January 1854, date courtesy Gerry, Rootschat
*** Death - 5821/1898  MCCULLOUGH  BRIDGET  UNKNOWN  UNKNOWN  LEICHHARDT 

The only way to sort it is to apply for a transcription of the marriage and see what it reveals.  Fingers crossed.

Many thanks,
Marg
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Re: KENNY - McGRILLIS - Queensland
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 13 June 13 09:57 BST (UK) »
Marg,

I have copy of that Kenney/McCullough marriage from the Parish Microfilm record that I could email you if you PM me your email address.  The Queensland State Library hold the films. 

Gerry

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Re: KENNY - McGRILLIS - Queensland
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 13 June 13 10:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gerry.

I have sent my email via PM

Marg
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Re: KENNY - McGRILLIS - Queensland
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 13 June 13 10:59 BST (UK) »
Marg,

Sent the email, please let me know if they arrive ok.

Gerry