Switzerland - In search of Guy Measham Berncastle's birth

[LockerZ]

Hi

I'm researching the Berncastle family and have become stuck.

On the 1911 census Guy Measham Berncastle is living in Hammersmith, London. The step son of Herbert Melbourne Berncastle and Sarah Berncastle.

Herbert Melbourne Berncastle married Sarah Measham 4th Quarter of 1909 in Fulham.

From the 1911 Census Guy Measham Berncastle was born in Switzerland in 1907.

How do I find his birth?

I imagine his name at birth was Guy Measham!!

Kind regards

Chris

[garstonite]

The first thing you have to establish is whether Sarah Measham was her birth name ??  have you found Sarah Measham on any census ?
On 1911 census where was Sarah born ...England or Switzerland ??

[garstonite]

OK ...I have found where Sarah was born - back soon

[garstonite]

1881 census
17 Wilbury Mews
Hove
Sussex
Sarah Measham aged 4 born Compstall,Derbyshire
family
Georg Measham aged 33 b Bagworth ,Leics
Ellen wife aged 26 b Compstall,Derbys
Sarah aged 4 b Compstall
William aged 2 b Brighton
Annie aged 0 b Brighton ...........
this is Sarah Berncastle - confirmation thru 1911 census info

So - pretty sure Guy would have been born Guy Measham .....

[jorose]

There appear to have been two sons - Guy (1907) and John (1906) Measham Berncastle (plus a third, Frank Measham Berncastle, born after the marriage - deceased 2002).

Herbert's obituary (europepmc.org/articles/PMC2026164/pdf/brmedj03065-0071c.pdf ) says three sons - so they were raised as his.

They do not appear (under Measham or Berncastle, at least) on the consular birth indexes - which unfortunately only means that she might not have registered them. If you know where (what church, if it was a church wedding) the marriage took place you might find a late baptism for one or both boys there. Or perhaps some later record (shipping?) might give you a more exact birthplace.

Not knowing exactly where they were born (or what name they might have been born under) will make getting any info out of Switzerland difficult.

[LockerZ]

Thank you

Jorose and Garstonite.

I will get the marriage certificate ordered.

Chris


 

[SwissGill]

Hi,

Wondered about the name of "Berncastle", having visited Bernkastel in Germany Tried Berncastel and found Frank Measham Berncastel on a Navy List on A'cy. There seem to be a number of "Berncastels" in the South of England but haven't researched further.

[SwissGill]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1404607/Lieutenant-Commander-Frank-Berncastle.html

Assumedly, the brother, John Measham Berncastel or Berncastle sailed to Port Said and gave his occupation as civil servant (maybe records here)

He also sailed to USA from Southampton 1947 and gave his address as c/o United Nations, NY (also a channel to follow).

Just found overseas Marriage:

BERNCASTLE, John M
Consulate : Cairo
Country: Egypt
Year: 1941-1945
Volume : 37
Page: 82
Spouse's last name: Not stated
Record source: GRO Consular Marriages (1849-1965

Possible brides:

Margaret V Brady
or
Mary P Ross

[Berncastel]

Chris
I am also researching the Berncastel/Berncastle family and have a copy of the marriage cert of Herbert Melbourne Berncastel and Sarah Measham.  I would be happy to send you a copy.

Jan