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Re: William Coyle or Koyle
« Reply #18 on: Monday 10 June 13 08:10 BST (UK) »
William CAFFELL and Ellen BEHAN had two children, Ellen Marie b. 1868 and Henry Francis b. 1872.  Henry died in 1899, unmarried I think, and Ellen married in 1903 to William Thomas Donnelly TAYLOR.  She also died fairly young in 1913 and the three of them are buried together at Cornelian Bay.

Here are some photos online of Ellen and her family, her son William Henry bears quite a striking resemblance:
http://www.myheritage.com/person-10000005_37127321_37127321/ellen-marie-taylor-born-caffell

This site is free to register.  I have never used it, but if you click on the 'home' tab you can see who submitted the info.  I would imagine that you would be able to contact the submitter once you register.  I would be trying to contact as many people as possible, just to try and confirm the CAFFELL/SWEENEY/HOWARD relationship.  You never know what documents and oral info people have until you ask.

There are also a number of people who have submitted trees to Ancestry so they would also be worth contacting.

Debra  :)

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Re: William Coyle or Koyle
« Reply #19 on: Monday 10 June 13 13:06 BST (UK) »
Hi, Thanks for that. Yes I had seen that site and looked through it and I think that's where I started questioning the Caffell connection, even though it's been found that there were 2 children born to an Ellen Behan and William Caffell, and there's also been a death found for an Ellen Caffell. 
At first look at all seems like it could be ok - and it could well be right - but to me it's not convincing me just yet.  :-\
For instance there's a marriage between Ellen Behan and William James Caffell in 1870 at St Pancras, Stepney, Middlesex London (i think that's hardly unlikely) and I couldn't find it on the Free BMD site.
Before that they had daughter Ellen Maria Caffell born 1868 in Tasmania and then son Henry Francis Caffell in 1872 in Tasmania.
However I have as you said, checked to see who submitted the information and I will contact him. I'd already emailed 2 other people whose websites I'd found information on, but no replies from them - yet.

I have also noticed on the Tasmanian Heritage pages that there's two Ellen BEHAN's and if that's correct, I get the feeling that people have got the two confused. Because they have different numbers, and one Ellen has no birth but shows the marriage to William Caffell and the two children Ellen Maria and Henry William - and the other Ellen born 1834, to John Sweeney and their children.
Thanks again.


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Re: William Coyle or Koyle
« Reply #20 on: Monday 24 June 13 15:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Does anyone know if any convict's wife/husband or family ever came with them to Australia, Tasmania in particular?
If they did is there a website to find out from.


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Re: William Coyle or Koyle
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 00:55 BST (UK) »
Hi lakay,

Convicts could apply to have their families brought out.  The documents are amongst the Colonial Secretary's Papers, but as with everything, not all have survived.  There is a published index (TASFHS) which you might find at your local library or family history society.

http://www.hobart.tasfhs.org/Convict%20Applications.htm

Usually it is noted in the convict index in the "Remarks" column.  To see an example, search for the name - Dennis CALLAGHAN  http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11

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Re: William Coyle or Koyle
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 17:52 BST (UK) »
H Thanks for that. I guess it was too much to hope for to find a website where they would be listed, no worries. I didn't know that were mentioned on the Tas Archive site though so have checked that out. I'll check out the library when i get the time to go there.
Cheers.