William Coyle or Koyle

[lakay]

I'm looking for information regarding William Coyle or Koyle in Tasmania.
He had a daughter Mary Ann Coyle born 1855 to 1858 in Tasmania. I have seen information on the internet that William married Ellen Behan but I can't find a marriage record......
I have seen the birth of F. Coyle (not sure if F. is just for female) 20-6-1855 on the Tasmanian Birth records showing father William, mother Ellen Bays, so I'm assuming this is Mary Ann, as this is the date I've seen on other information shown on her.....
Mary Ann Coyle married Henry Howard in 1873 and her father William Coyle was said to have died the following year 1874 but I can't find a death......
William's wife was supposed to have married again after William died and I found a marriage for Ellen Behan to John Sweeney (not Ellen Coyle) - so to me that indicates that she wasn't actually married to William Coyle.
There are many mixed records - but if there is anyone who has William Coyle/Koyle in their family tree and has any information about him regarding his birth, death or anything really, I would appreciate any help.
I found a convict record in Tasmania for a William Koyle but I'm not sure if this is the same person as I haven't been able to verify it in any way.
Thank you if anyone has any information..

[jorose]

The marriage to John Sweeney was in 1856 - Ellen Behan may have also had a relationship with William Coffee (last kid with John Sweeney 1866 - kids with William Coffee listed from 1868).

The first kid born to John Sweeney and Ellen Behan, Denis, may also be the witness Denis Sweeny listed when Mary Ann marries:  http://www.rootschat.com/links/0udo/

Certainly suggests the Sween(e)y link is right but just falls short of hard proof.

Have you looked through the convict William Koyle's records to see if location around 1854/55, etc, fit?

ETA:
Okay, this would seem to be more for her being your Mary's mother - William "Coffee" was aka William Caffell, and this death of Ellen Caffell in 1896 has informant H. Howard:
 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0uds/

[lakay]

Hi Thanks for those bits of information. I have only found a convict record for a William Coyle who arrived in Tasmania March 1841, but I don't really know if this is 'the' William Coyle or not, I have looked but haven't found anything regarding William Coyle after that about where he lived or died, but I will keep looking. Thanks for the reply.

[~MERLIN~]

I have seen the birth of F. Coyle (not sure if F. is just for female) 20-6-1855 on the Tasmanian Birth records showing father William, mother Ellen Bays, so I'm assuming this is Mary Ann, as this is the date I've seen on other information shown on her.....

The register showing the birth - last one at the bottom of the page:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0udm/

[~MERLIN~]

William KOYLE was transported as a court-martialed soldier for mutinous conduct:

http://foundersandsurvivors.org//pubsearch-xsl/image/viewer.html?CON31-1-25,332,205

http://foundersandsurvivors.org//pubsearch-xsl/image/viewer.html?CON18-1-27,185,34

http://foundersandsurvivors.org/pubsearch/convict/chain/c31a31250582

[lakay]

Hi Thanks for the birth record which shows me there that the f was for female, as no name has been given to the child.
Thanks also for the convict records, I had seen them but have been undecided if this was the same William Koyle/Coyle. However I haven't found any other William Koyle, and no other information about him either.
 
I also found a death on trove for an Ellen Sweeney in Hobart, 26-2-1917 age 83 years, relict of the late James Sweeney. Although the marriage record said she married John Sweeney, she was 22 years old (so born 1834) then and the age at death matches that exactly. But she died a bit out of the area of where she married and had the children.

So I'm not sure if i go with the Ellen Sweeney or the Ellen Caffell death, even though an Ellen Behan has had children to William Coffee and Henry Caffell as well as Sweeney and Koyle and the informant on the Caffell death of H. Howard, shown as 'a friend' could have been her son in law Henry Howard who was living at Nook about that time.
The Caffell death says she was 58, which would make her born 1838, so she could have lied about her age when she married Sweeney.

Anyway thanks and I'll keep looking but would gladly receive any further information if anyone has any.

[Dundee]

Ellen CAFFELL's death notice:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/9322933

CAFFELL - On April 10, 1896, at her daughters residence, Spreyton, Ellen, the beloved wife of William Caffell, of Hobart, aged 58 years.

The HOWARDS were having children in the same area in the 1890's.  Son Henry Mervyn enlisted iin 1918 and one of the documents signed by his parents states that he was born at Spreyton.

http://dhistory.org/archives/naa/items/5485413/

Debra 

[~MERLIN~]

... and her father William Coyle was said to have died the following year 1874 but I can't find a death.

The only likely death I can see after 1873 is this one:

KAYLE WILLIAM age 67yrs d. 28/02/1876  CAMPBELL TOWN #42/1876 RGD 35

Image of the register is here:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ueo/
 

[lakay]

Thanks everyone for those additional bits of information the Caffell death is looking more promising and the death of William Kayle also looks like it's the right one.
Thanks for the web sites to check out. Funny that Henry and Mary Ann Howard have verified that their son Henry Mervyn was born 16-1-1900 when his birth certificate says 15-1-1899.

I think the Ellen Sweeney death I found must be another Ellen. Unfortunately when you find something like that and it fits, it's so easy to think you're on the right track - and you're not.
Thanks again