Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family

[Westoe]

Hello John,

Sincere apologies for my "old banger" clanger. You now have so many people and ships on the go that I get confused. Well then, it's possible that there were still finishing touches to put on INVICTA, hence a need for a carpenter/AB.

Cheers,
Westoe

[John1935]

Hello Westoe

Out on the 'Green beastie' are we, how is the weather now - easing for you I hope. One item I forgot to put down, was that both the 'Pride of the Wear' and 'Invicta' were under the same managing agents - George Foreman of sunderland. I think to follow Peter backwards, I will have to go to TNA, to see the crew list for Pride of the wear in 1866, which in principle they have. Can still not find who he made his wage allotment to, I suppose there is no register for that ??
Have until the two carpenters have always been searching Master Mariners, now when I come to search my pet names (LTTEW) husband Joseph Wilson, he, his brother and some of the Wilson grandchildren are mariners/Sailors/Seamen depending on the enumerator! What is the best method for finding these, or is the answer - don't bother ? since they started up in Spittal I wonder if they might have been fishermen - but have never seen that term used ?

Best

John

[Westoe]

Hello John,

Erm ... you'd use pretty much the same tactics as looking for a master mariner, just not so many of them - the merchant navy records from FindMyPast, the newspapers, the census-es (you might just get lucky and find them enumerated aboard ship), etc. I've been buried in old newspapers lately and having a field day.

Cheers,
Westoe

[John1935]

Hello Westoe

Yes a case of ' slowly slowly catchie monkey' as the old saying goes.

No ! No! we can't have that - Westoe buried in old newspapers !! tut! tut! wouldn't be right,
(smile) better have a whip round.

Have actually been regarding the same myself, on the John Tillman (Architect) but apart from finding that he fell down the stairs and fractured his arm in three places, and that there is a good picture of him in a magazine called the 'Invention' 1883 edition (which so far I can't find anywhere),
am not progressing.

Best

John

[John1935]

Hello Westoe

LTTEW's daughter Thomasina married a certain John Miller (Mariner) and they lived  at :
No. 71 Saville Street Westoe, question is - do you know where Saville street is or was please, and observation is that a Mr Bruce Lowe (Mariner), wife and three children lived next door - think I saw a Mr Lowe on one of your post somewhere, or have I been drinking too much Lamb's again?

Best

John

[Westoe]

LTTEW's daughter Thomasina married a certain John Miller (Mariner) and they lived  at :
No. 71 Saville Street Westoe, question is - do you know where Saville street is or was please, and observation is that a Mr Bruce Lowe (Mariner), wife and three children lived next door - think I saw a Mr Lowe on one of your post somewhere,

Hello John,

If you ask Google Maps for "Saville Street, South Shields" and zoom in, it appears to be a dead-end street running westward off Anderson Street (the A183), just north of Winchester Street (where several of my lot lived) and south of Ocean Road.

Sorry, but the name "Lowe" doesn't ring any bells.

Cheers,
Westoe
(still in the deep freeze - car won't start again today)

[John1935]

Hello Westoe

Sorry to hear about nasty weather - is it normal for the time of year where you are ? But look at the petrol you are saving ( smile ). Thought - have an old wooden toboggan in the cellar - but no snow, would be perfect for what was the long hot hill of summer that you have, Oh! how do I stop it when I reach the library and how do I get back ! Problems over here in both North and South ( like UK) is heavy flooding - so far center is okay up to now.
Other people on Saville St are ; Barbara Horbot & family - James Phillips and wife -Robert Barnes wife & daughter -Margaret Boyce & son - Edward Rutherford ? & wife - Felix Skea & family. Seems a longer street at that time, as last is in 78. No telling my son lives in No.86 - in a four house street!!

Hope things improve quickly, Summer is on the way ( my resident blackbird informed me )

Best

John

[Westoe]

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Have actually been regarding the same myself, on the John Tillman (Architect) but apart from finding that he fell down the stairs and fractured his arm in three places, and that there is a good picture of him in a magazine called the 'Invention' 1883 edition (which so far I can't find anywhere),
am not progressing.

Hello John,

Can't help with "Invention", but I've had a look through a paperback book I have:
Sunderland in Old Photographs
159 pages, original price 8 pound
Collected by Stuart Miller & Billy Bell
Alan Sutton Publishing Limited, 1991
ISBN: 0-86299-898-0

p33, there's a photo of the museum and central library

That's the only mention of Tillman I see in it, but it is well worth buying just for background information and local colour. I got mine secondhand for a song.

Cheers,
Westoe

[John1935]

Hello Westoe

Might just have found 'Invention', nice lady at British Library, is having a copy sent up to her so had she can check, and will know next Tuesday,so fingers crosssed - it is so nice when you manage to contact such a helpful person, and that happened twice last week, the other being at D