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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #171 on: Tuesday 17 December 13 09:38 GMT (UK) »
 Good Morning Westoe
Bright sun and no snow, only place I ever went in Canada, was St Johns, New Brunswick and yes that had a lot of snow.

Yes but ! Snow I referred to was the white stuff you have been throwing about (smile).
Have had info on the 'Seaflower' that Henry George Ellington was on as mate, built and registered at Sunderland 212 Ton Brig but confusing info as to whether built in 1817/18 or 1820 ( There is a note of 'irp' so whether the 'large repairs' might have been a near rebuild - don't know, in both cases owned by Robinson's of Sunderland.

Have you come across 'Corder' by chance ?

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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #172 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 02:13 GMT (UK) »
Have you come across 'Corder' by chance ?

No, the name is not known to me. I took a swoop through worldcat.org using Corder as an author name thinking that might pick up the name of a reference book, but no joy. Why not ask your contact on that Sunderland site to enlighten us?

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« Reply #173 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 11:59 GMT (UK) »
Hello Westoe
Thanks to Wiki, here he is - but, but but, thinks must visit Sunderland to see !!

"James Corder started his research at the end of the 19th century, by copying the registers of three ancient churches, including St Peter's, which was founded by Benedict Biscop. He also used information held by Presbyterian chapels in the town, as well as trade directories and marriage license bonds.

Corder documented his research in 25 volumes of manuscript books, taking 40 years to compile lists of the births, deaths and marriages of Sunderland families. His knowledge of intermarriage was immense, as documented in his volume on local Quaker families. He also interviewed people to help with the construction of the pedigrees of local families. He made notes of their origins in his manuscripts and traced their first entry into the town, the trades they were in and where they lived.

But he was also controversial. His books often contained potentially libelous comments on the people he met. One man was called a ‘worthless nonentity,’ by Corder, another ‘a habitual drunkard.’ It is said that his books were kept hidden at Sunderland library for some years, for fear of possible court action by those mentioned.

As well as his family records, Corder also chronicled Sunderland's streets, buildings, churches and industries in a further 36 volumes. Many of the streets, and most of the firms he listed, have now disappeared – hence his work is of great value."

Looks very interesting.

Thank the Hush puppy again, hope it could be cheap journalism, or a crew man trying to get money (as in the case I showed earlier, with the carpenter) - can not see that ship of that size, would have more than 10 crew anyway. Re checking what the father and son had written, each time they have included the 'R' in ARCADIA.

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John

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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #174 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 16:29 GMT (UK) »
... hope it could be cheap journalism, or a crew man trying to get money (as in the case I showed earlier, with the carpenter) - can not see that ship of that size, would have more than 10 crew anyway. Re checking what the father and son had written, each time they have included the 'R' in ARCADIA.

Heello John,

Very interesting about Corder; I have learned something today.

Re crew size of ACADIA, ON 32849:
Newfoundland has crew list for 1873 if you want to check.

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Westoe


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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #175 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 17:12 GMT (UK) »
Hello Westoe

Yes!! my mistake yet again - she was 754 Tons - so yes on the scale I have ( Foreign  3.6 per 100T)  for 1850 - 1913 they should have 27 - O.No falls correct each time but the two Goodsirs have always written Arcadia - no disagree they were sober gentlemen - maybe they wrote it as they pronounced it.

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John

p.s. Can't afford another crew list, and haven't received the first yet.
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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #176 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Have you seen the latest three images by email? You'll maybe get the answers to these questions next trip to NMM.

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« Reply #177 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 21:30 GMT (UK) »
Uhm

Maybe but too hard to read - O.N. not the same - my print out unclear - or new glasses for Christmas !!!

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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #178 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Yes, the ON is 32849. Be clearer to you maybe if you look it up yourself in Google Books. I used as search term "ACADIA 32849" without the quotes.

The bad news is that I now believe the truncated page 251 is not the fault of the person scanning the pages, but a fault in the original printed edition.

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« Reply #179 on: Sunday 22 December 13 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Just a big Thank you, to the patience & help from the Administrators and Rootschatters that has made a very interesting year.

A VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS

 AND IF YOU CAN FIND THE COAL AN ENJOYABLE ' First Footing'

Everthing in moderation please !!

John

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Macaire. Eusebe. Boitel. Beaulieu. Gordon. Tillman. Fear. Wood.
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