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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #153 on: Wednesday 04 December 13 16:58 GMT (UK) »
p.s. Can't find a trace of Harry Fitzgerald Goodsir b. 1865, doesn't seem to fit with our lot, but as normal I might just have missed one - though name doesn't run in family, maybe the Scots branch.

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John

pps  Not sure if that row of weird faces above are meant to be Father Christmas or the French strikers ?  (big smile)
Goodsir.  Ellington. Tillman.  Wilson. AngAs. Capstaff (Northumberland & Durham)
Macaire. Eusebe. Boitel. Beaulieu. Gordon. Tillman. Fear. Wood.
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« Reply #154 on: Wednesday 04 December 13 22:53 GMT (UK) »
Ah Phooey Fiddlesticks! I was so excited about finding David there and his last ship being ARCADIA, that I made the newbie's mistake of "assuming" - assuming that DAGMAR followed closely on ARCADIA. I shoulda shoulda shoulda gone back through all the posts and gotten David's timeline fixed in my head before posting. Awlright -  I've stopped crowing and am now eating humble pie.  Still ... it was a nice find.

Who's on strike now and why?

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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #155 on: Thursday 05 December 13 10:19 GMT (UK) »
Hello Westoe

Stop eating humble pie (a) is not a cure for the Bronchi (b) is not needed as info very ,very helpful o
on building a picture of David - - However  'we have a problem here!' he has put down ARcadia where as we have Acadia ( both names are used at that time, as both are on Lloyd's reg - but not his ship? )
He maybe needed that trip, poor man, had lost his wife and daughter in 1871, his ship in 1873 and his eldest son in 1875, also, it is noted on his death in 1883 that he died after a long and painful illness, so possible a slip of hand on the 'R', or maybe intentional - either way 1873 fits what we have on 'Acadia' and his son's trips on the same ship also.

Strikes uhm yes - you have to have a reason?  Seriously though  - The 'Red bonnets of Bretagne' are on strike against the government's stupid Eco Tax, which would effect them very badly
 - The Railways, next week, not sure why, - Christmas shopping maybe ? and the Teachers, - just had enough of government interference and can't stand kids anymore!! don't blame any of them and Wish them all a Happy Christmas.

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John
Goodsir.  Ellington. Tillman.  Wilson. AngAs. Capstaff (Northumberland & Durham)
Macaire. Eusebe. Boitel. Beaulieu. Gordon. Tillman. Fear. Wood.
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« Reply #156 on: Thursday 05 December 13 15:15 GMT (UK) »
However  'we have a problem here!' he has put down ARcadia where as we have Acadia ( both names are used at that time, as both are on Lloyd's reg - but not his ship? )

Good Morning, John,

Hmmnn. So we have a gap of approx. 7 tears in his working life, 1873 - 1880. It is possible that after losing ACADIA in 1873, that he also shipped aboard an ARCADIA, say, c.1879, in a non-master position, which is a needle-in-haystack situation. If we could, we might spend years in the bowels of archives going through hundreds of thousands of crew lists and still not find what's needed to close that gap.

BUT ...  I am a firm believer in
a) Serendipity and
b) casting my bread upon the waters aka RAOKs (random acts of kindness). "What goes around, comes around." (Smile) Over the years, I've had a lot of soggy bread come back to me.

Another stroke of luck will come eventually - another lot of records digitized or a tip from another researcher. (That's where an uncommon surname like Goodsir is a Godsend.) After all, I hadn't even known about this source until two days ago when i  stumbled on it - found two for myself, one for you and two for a fellow I've been helping by email. (Smile) If we wanted 'easy' hobbies, we could take up building birdhouses or summat.

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Westoe



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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #157 on: Thursday 05 December 13 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Yes, due to the statement that he had a long and painful illness - think will go with what we have got, and leave your soggy bread for the moment ( unless you've dipped it in Whisky that is! )

When I get crew list and with the great detective work done by Janey will write up more news on Peter Ellington in a bit

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John
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Macaire. Eusebe. Boitel. Beaulieu. Gordon. Tillman. Fear. Wood.
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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #158 on: Thursday 12 December 13 10:12 GMT (UK) »
Hello Westoe

Hope your WC is improving ( Ooops! - should not use acronyms or abbreviations ) but you know what I mean.
My turn now, down with   A "cute" Sciatica, made too many bird tables !!!
Our friend on ' WC Balls' who was sanctioned for his problem with the ship - how and where did you manage to get the info, as want to get full info on the 'Arcadia' s wrecking, and what might have happened to David.

Happy Husking

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John
Goodsir.  Ellington. Tillman.  Wilson. AngAs. Capstaff (Northumberland & Durham)
Macaire. Eusebe. Boitel. Beaulieu. Gordon. Tillman. Fear. Wood.
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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #159 on: Thursday 12 December 13 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Hello John,

What I have came from the newspapers. When you looked for ACADIA before at MNN, perhaps you didn't find anything because it should have been ARCADIA. But?? ...didn't BoT only hold inquiries on losses that occurred in British waters?? ACADIA/ARCADIA was lost off coast of Spain, was she not?
Sorry to disappoint.

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Westoe

P.S. Did your David have a cousin, also named David Goodsir and just a few years younger, who was a North Sea pilot?

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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #160 on: Thursday 12 December 13 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Hello Westoe

Surely Lloyd's then must have held some sort of enquiry, if insurance was involved though, and thought that BOT would be concerned somehow, if was British registered ship ?

Oh good another one ! see what you meant about never ending projects ! could be, please tell me more, what age are we talking about ? had found his brother William married in 1840, and other brother Thomas in 1835, but had not yet followed them up. Or could it be David himself !! HELP

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John
Goodsir.  Ellington. Tillman.  Wilson. AngAs. Capstaff (Northumberland & Durham)
Macaire. Eusebe. Boitel. Beaulieu. Gordon. Tillman. Fear. Wood.
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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #161 on: Thursday 12 December 13 16:50 GMT (UK) »
Hello John,

Three images from Google Books sent to you by email. There is at least one other mention in Google Books, but I didn't save it yet.

Cheers,
Westoe