Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family

[John1935]

Hello Westoe
Had just come to the end on this post, when it suddenly vanished off the screen ??

So will try again !

It was a happy thought, but since the B.O.T. left it until December before entering it in their books,I still have great doubts, re the Shipwreck Mariners Soc, maybe since they will have seen the addresses of all the crew entered in the newspaper, they sent £2 to each family ?

Although I now have his address, since it falls between two census & in that time they changed the street and numbering (From South Johnson St to Johnson street) no Chance to find relatives.
Strange though - his sister in law, when she died 30yrs later was buried from that address!!

Best

John

[Westoe]

It was a happy thought, but since the B.O.T. left it until December before entering it in their books,I still have great doubts, re the Shipwreck Mariners Soc, maybe since they will have seen the addresses of all the crew entered in the newspaper, they sent £2 to each family ?

Erm ... no, not quite accurate. It was not the BoT that left it until December to enter the details in their books. The wages would have been paid in to a shipping office (usually the nearest one to the owner's place of business) and then the shipping offices made quarterly returns to the BoT.

It was not the mandate of The Shipwrecked Mariners Society to make payments to the families. Their funds were used to directly relieve surviving shipwrecked mariners - clothe them, feed them and transport them back to their homes.

Cheers,
Westoe

[John1935]

Ump Good that sounds still promising - but without knowing even if he was married, how to find ?

Anybody any good ideas please ?

Best

John

[Westoe]

Hello John,

This isn't any answer to your last question, but was he by any chance Peter Tillman Ellington, baptized 1833, living Laurence Street, Sunderland?

What about baptisms, marriages for his nieces and nephews - checking names of godparents/sponsors/witnesses?

Cheers,
Westoe

[John1935]

Yes Westoe

That is the one - but of the kids still living only Lavinia Thomasin Tillman Ellington, appears to have had children all with the surname of WILSON, have tried to search those, but it appears that the North East coast, was full of Wilsons at that time, uhmmmmmmmm maybe still is  - anyone know the above Lady please, last address that I have is in 1881, living at Brunswick Cottage, Chirton, Northumberland with Husband Joseph, and son Henry Wilson, age 29 unmarried a Shipsmith(builder). b. Spittal.

And does anybody know the relationship of house numbers on the 1861 Census for South Johnson Street Bishopwearmouth Sunderland and those on the 1871 Census - same street but has now lost the 'South' - am looking for who was living at No. 21  Johnson Street Please .Best

John

[Westoe]

Hello John,

Harrummph!!! Be It Resolved:
that there will be no more remarks passed about "Westoe's Wicked Smile"
because that of "Veryoldseadog" is Infinitely More Wicked!
(yes (smile) I've noticed that you have finally joined The Mariners List).

I'm dyin' of bronchitis over here and you've had Green Beastie and I outside in the cold and the dark for half an hour, trying to piggyback on an unlocked wireless signal long enough to download that old photographs link you've just sent me. Thank you  (I think), but having seen those four unknown children playing in the street, I will now wait until I am back at a proper PC to investigate the site further. Got my hopes up, you did - fished me in proper.

Here's hoping you get some results to your query on The Mariners List. I would suggest also posting the PEMBROKE query there because Paul Benyon, who is a member there is an expert on things RN.

BT 154 didn't start early enough to be any help with Ellington senior.

Cheers,
Westoe

[Westoe]

P.S. I'd also try posting your Johnson Street/South Johnson Street query as a separate thread in the County Durham section. That sounds like one that would be right up Stan Mapstone's alley.

Cheers,
Westoe

[John1935]

Hello Westoe
Oh dear !Oh dear ! Bronchitis nasty, - have same problem at times - yet another JOY of old age!  well hot whisky and lemon ( and I was going to say take the green beastie and go to bed ) but then thought that it sounded a bit kinky - so I didn't !
Have sent off a PM to Stan as suggested, if anyone would know as you say , it would be him.

I found a possible marriage for Peter, but at Sheerness, why not, his brother we know was there on Pembroke - however it is not too clear, age is correct, occupation down as Shipwright (possible),  Father down as Master Mariner but with first name as Peter also !

Have only just crept on to the 'Mariner's List' so will see if I get any fish first before making a nuisance of myself !

Have also been on to TNA to see if they can transliterate the BT 115/11 of John Tillman for me - if those numbers are the 'Aid' then we would be home and dry, on him coming from Devon.

You never know, if you could find the street those children were playing on - they, just might just be some of yours ?

Right send out for another bottle and get better soon

Best

John

[John1935]

Correction to previous info as given on Captain John Tillman ( Shipowner ) and son of Sunderland :

 ‘Lady of the Lake’ Arrived from Alexandria with 2000 grs of Wheat for J.P.Kimberly.

Knowing that John died on the 11th Oct 1868, we could assume ( I think ), that from unloading in May, until his death in Sulina, he would have had time to sail North, for another load of Coal, for Sulina and that this was his last ship, but no it wasn’t, in fact he died on the 'Royal Arch' of Sunderland  . 58142 – Built North Hylton Sunderland in 1868 (so this was her maiden voyage) a Barque of 333 Tons – call sign H.C.S.V. John was also the Owner, as he was of the’ Lady of the Lake’. A Capt John .A .Keer Master of the ‘Ethel’ was witness to John’s death, but there was no cause on the cert from the Consul in Sulina;
 Son John the Architect, went on to run the ships till at least 1876

Best

John