Charles Leonard Leaman Hankins - Parents

[jorose]

In 1897 "Alice Leamon" was also in the newspaper for abandoning her child, aged 1 (I presume this is Charles Leonard).  The "Charitable Aid Board" (paid for the child) and the Salvation Army (took Alice into their care).  She is, unfortunately, only described as a "young woman".  (these records are on paperspast).

There was an Alice Leaman who died in the right area of Tasmania in 1908 but she was an infant:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/84523740?searchTerm=Leaman


William and Mary Ann's Alice looks like a good possibility - perhaps tracing the other siblings will help confirm where Alice ended up.

[Janette]

If that is the family,this looks like them arriving in NZ

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11002-138434-64?cc=1609792&wc=M9SS-5SF:n1956471300

William Leaman aged 25
Mary A            aged 32
George           aged   6
Samuel          aged    4
and sadly
William           aged 7/12's in the margin (dead)

Cheers Janette

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hi again...

If you know for a fact that he was admitted to Burnham Industrial School it may be worth checking the Industrial Schools' Nominal Rolls to see if they lead to any further info. The Rolls are held at Wellington Archives.

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If you're unable to get to Wellington you could always start a new thread entitled...

 "Wellington Archives Look-up please - Charles Leonard LEAMAN/HANKINS".

One of the kind Wellington-based rootschatters will visit the Archives on your behalf, take photos of any files and then email the photos to you. There is no cost to you except for the debt of gratitude.

You'll need to include the following in your look-up request;

His name, noting both surnames

The industrial school, namely Burnham (where did you get this info from)

The following link to the 1903 Nominal Roll...
Industrial Schools - Nominal Rolls (R12026612)    1903
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=12026612

It may take a week or two for someone to visit Archives and they may come away with nothing but there's no harm in asking.

Regards
Beg

[minniehaha]

Hello,

Just a thought, but could the original spelling of the name have been LEHMANN perhaps??

Minniehaha.

[Janette]

PapersPast have a Charles Hankins receiving a prize in 1911 for best worker in the garden at the The Boys' Training Farm at Weraroa
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=HC19111223.2.10&srpos=22&e=-------50--1-byDA---2charles+hankins--

Charles may have moved to the North Island

http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/28564/boys-training-farm-weraroa-1912

Cheers Janette

[Artisan99]

Thanks so much for all of these replies and suggestions.

 I suspect the MARGERY GRENFELL MILFORD divorce has the 100-year restriction because the break-up of this relationship and subsequent repartnering with others - by BOTH Margery and Charles - is what caused my grandmother KATHLEEN MARJORIE HANKINS and her two full sisters to be placed in foster care.

I know the names of Grandma's younger halfsiblings through the later marriages of Charles and Margery to others, but it's the mystery surrounding Charles's beginnings that have me wondering.

Thanks, everyone, for your tips!

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hi again...

The following ties in with some of the names on the Mundia trees but there's still no guarantee it's right.

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Here's a Mary Ann LEAMAN d.24 Feb 1915 being remembered by her son Richard and daughter M. CHAMPION.

I'm guessing M. CHAMPION is the Mary Elizabeth LEAMAN who married John Warren CHAMPION in 1901.

No mention of an Alice.

Papers Past
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ud9/

Buried at Kaiapoi
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ud8/

Regards
Beg

[Beg Clonrode...]

If that is the family,this looks like them arriving in NZ

William LEAMAN aged 25
Mary A            aged 32
George           aged   6
Samuel          aged    4
and sadly
William           aged 7/12's in the margin (dead)

Here's a theory...

I'm inclined to agree with Janette in that the Mary Ann d.1915 that I mentioned in my previous post is the one who migrated from Devon to NZ in 1874 aboard the Rakaia. Her husband William and three children accompanied her.

As I read it FreeBMD has this Mary Ann and William marrying in Newton Abbot, Devon in 1867 Q4. Mary Ann is a LEAMAN by birth.

I think William and Mary Ann are listed on the 1871 UK census along with their son Samuel.

This means the three children who traveled on the Rakaia are older siblings of Alice. Not sure why they're not mentioned on the above "In Memoriam" notice, but then again neither was Alice.

(Having said that, there is a possible William and Mary Ann LEAMAN listing on the 1891 census as well, which means my theory is wrong. I only have access to LDS to view the censuses, not ancestry, so I can't be sure)

The oldest son Samuel may be the 1945 burial listed on the Ashburton cemetery website.

Not sure where/if the convict William b.1809 mentioned on Mundia fits in.

Like I said, just a theory

Regards
Beg

[Artisan99]

Thanks for all of the advice!

You have helped a lot already, and it's aided me in picking up on a discrepancy I'd not challenged before. Upon reflection, CLLH being in Burnham was something not gleaned from an official source, but an anecdotal one. I've rechecked my notes and it seems most of the cruelty press coverage stated he was staying at "the Samaritan Home" and would be committed to "the Industrial School".

But in a 1905 court news report dealing with Charles Hankins being ordered to pay 5s per week maintenance for CLLH, it states that the boy is in "the Caversham Industrial School".

Thanks for the reminder re: official vs unofficial sources.
I wouldn't have thought to question which industrial school he'd attended till quite a bit later on otherwise.

Imogen