Charles Leonard Leaman Hankins - Parents

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hi again...

The Ashburton Family History Group have primary school records of a dozen-ish LEAMAN children. There are four who attended the primary school at Rakaia, namely Richard, Mary Elizabeth and Alice, who we think are siblings. The fourth child is a Samuel, who may be the child found by Janette on the 1874 passenger list of the "Rakaia". My theory is that he is an older brother to the three other children.

Primary school records - Surnames starting with L
(This is a 1MB pdf file. Hope you can view it. If not let me know)
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlasfhg/L.pdf


I've no idea of the school record details held by the Ashburton FHG but I do know that they won't tell you unless you pay them NZ$10

Here are contact details for their School Records Officer. If you decide to go further then maybe drop her a "just making an enquiry" email to find the best way to proceed.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlasfhg/Schools.htm

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Are any of the surnames mentioned on the following Will part of your extended family.

I think Rosina was the widow of the above-mentioned Samuel LEAMAN

Rosina LEAMAN
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0udu/

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The annual Industrial Schools' Nominal Rolls mentioned earlier list all of the children at all of the schools in the one volume. It's alphabetical by school so finding Charles shouldn't be too difficult (famous last words)

Regards
Beg

[Artisan99]

Oh, thank you, Beg!

You and everyone above have provided so many more links and ideas that I didn't realise were possible!

It's been a stop-start process these past few years, and given that even at my level of the tree there are multiple marriages and half-siblings not growing up in the same household, it's taken a lot of digging to just get this far.


My internet access is primarily by smart phone, so have not yet viewed the last two links you have posted, but I'll touch base once I've seen them on a full screen.

Many thanks,
Imogen

[jorose]

http://christchurchcitylibraries.com/FamilyHistory/Justice/
 - has some summary of what sources you might be able to use to find details about Alice from police/court/prison records.

Mildly curious is the "Eliza Alice Leaman" death in 1953 aged 75.  I don't see any marriages/births which would indicate that this is a "Mrs Leaman".

Yet another possible spelling - Leman.  An Alice Leman is mentioned at paperspast, as the victim of an assault by Joseph Francis Cordors at Fendalton.

[Beg Clonrode...]

Mildly curious is the "Eliza Alice Leaman" death in 1953 aged 75.

Hello...

I've checked the BDM NZ Cemetery fiche.

Eliza Alice LEAMAN (plot no.218) is buried next to a Frederick William LEAMAN (plot no.219).

Frederick William died in 1933 aged 48, so born c.1885
Eliza Alice died in 1953 aged 75, so born c.1878


BDM NZ website has an 1883 birth for a Frederick William LEAMON, son of Henry David and Maria Jane LEAMON.

1883/8304 - LEAMON, Frederick William - mother: Maria Jane  father: Henry David


BDM NZ website also has an 1878 birth for an Eliza Alice LEIMAN, son of Henry and Maria Jane LEIMAN.

1878/17509 - LEIMAN, Eliza Alice - mother: Maria Jane  father: Henry


I've no proof but possibly Frederick and Eliza are brother and sister, both children of Henry and Maria Jane LEAMAN.

Regards
Beg

[kiwihalfpint]

1878/17509 - LEIMAN, Eliza Alice - mother: Maria Jane  father: Henry

Regards
Beg

Hi,

There is a school record for a Eliza Leamon born 10 July 1878, unfortunately, no Parent/Guardian is shown.  But the date and month match for the Leiman Birth Registration on BDM.

School Records (APWs)

Name : LEAMON Eliza
School : Lyttelton
Register Number : 264
Admission Date : 21 Jan 1889
Address : Lyttelton
Birthdate : 10 Jul 1878
Last School : L B S
Last Day : 20 Dec 1892
Further enquiries to : Canterbury Branch - NZSG

LBS I think would be Lyttelton Boys School?   Down as Eliza Alice in the 1900 E/R for Ashley, Canterbury

and there is a Frederick Wm Leaman as well, unfortunately no birth date showing

School Records (APWs)

Name : LEAMAN Frederick Wm
School : Spotswood
Register Number : 09
Admission Date : 25 Sep 1894
Parent / Guardian : Henry LEAMAN
Address : Waiau, Cheviot
Last School : Lyttelton
Last Day : 19 Dec 1894
Destination : Work
Further enquiries to : Canterbury Branch - NZSG

There is an earlier record for Fred Leaman with the birth date of 1 April 1883, but we know that we take the birth dates with a pinch of salt on School Records.

Cheers
KHP

[kiwihalfpint]

and another for Eliza, this time with Parents name and surname spelt Leaman.  The Second initial must be a transcription error.  The address below matches the one given for Henry David Leaman and Maria Jane Leaman on the 1893 Electoral Roll Disc.

School Records (APWs)

Name : LEAMAN Eliza
School : Lyttelton
Register Number : 619
Admission Date : 26 Jan 1891
Parent / Guardian : H T LEAMAN
Address : Canterbury St
Birthdate : 10 Jul 1878
Last School : Governors Bay

Cheers
KHP

[kiwihalfpint]

I've no proof but possibly Frederick and Eliza are brother and sister, both children of Henry and Maria Jane LEAMAN.

Regards
Beg

Looks like there are more ... taken from school records, I may as well throw them in, to keep or put on the scrap heap

Henry David Leaman born 7 April 1881 ....On the BDM site down as Henry David Leamon.    On E/R he is Henry David Leaman Jnr
Maud Muriel Leaman 1884 - On the BDM site as Maud Muriel Leamon .... can't see a School Record
Ida Muriel Leaman date of birth 11 Jan 1886
Alfred Walter Leaman date of birth 26 July 1888
Maurice Leaman date of birth 12 June 1894
Bertha Leaman date of birth 30 June 1891

Cheers
KHP

[Artisan99]

Goodness! I'm quite overcome by all of this excellent advice and assistance.

Thank you all so very much.

 It's very much a stop-start affair just now, but I'll make sure to update you all on any progress.
Just wanted to express my gratitude for all of the help thus far.

Best regards to you all,
Imogen

[Artisan99]

Thanks again for all of the clever leads provided in this thread.

I haven't followed all of them up yet, but am happy to report that a source within the family says the age of Alice at the time of Charles's birth and the link to Rakaia resonate with what he had heard about her from within the family. Anecdotal, but helpful, nevertheless.

Apologies to the moderators for not requesting myself for this to be moved to the 'Completed' category.

Thanks again for all of the assistance!