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Re: Mary Ann Went (nee Jones) - I'm stuck!
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 01 June 13 14:13 BST (UK) »
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How can I find out if any children came from this marriage between Edgar and Mary Ann?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

I’ve tried births on FreeBMD  district Swansea
Nothing shows up for surname Went between 1872 – 1881  :(
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Re: Mary Ann Went (nee Jones) - I'm stuck!
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 02 June 13 14:14 BST (UK) »
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How can I find out if any children came from this marriage between Edgar and Mary Ann?

I don't know whether Reginald may have been a child of Edgar James Went & Mary Ann Jones

there this birth entry
Neath Sep 1876 vol 11a page 587 Reginald William WENTE

This looks to be his death
Merthyr T Jun 1879 Reginald William WENT age 2

the only way of finding out his parents names would be to order the b/c,may just be a coincidence but Edgar & Ellen named a son Reginald  :-\

just for info. - you probably have these entries for their children

WENT Births  Registration district Newport Mon

Dec 1881 Mabel Caroline E
Dec 1883 Gertrude Lilian M
Mar 1886 Edgar James died age 0 Sep 1886
Mar 1887 Ethel Alice E
Dec 1891 Frederick Robert
Jun  1896 Violet May
Dec 1898 Gladys Irene R
Sep 1901 Elsie Victoria
Jun 1904 Ivy Maud
Jun 1907 Reginald George

Haven't had much luck finding a death for  Mary Ann Went nee Jones born c 1850 or finding her with her father James - Farmer  ???






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Re: Mary Ann Went (nee Jones) - I'm stuck!
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 02 June 13 14:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ladyhawk, that's interesting and worth looking in to.  However, my gut tells me that they would have lived very near to a port as being in/on water is the type of work Edgar always did  (dredger, mariner etc).  Nevertheless, I will see how much more I can find out about Reginald.

Oh, how I wish the census was taken more than every 10 years!

And, yes, I have that list of the children.  Gertrude is my GGrandmother.  :)
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Re: Mary Ann Went (nee Jones) - I'm stuck!
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 02 June 13 15:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ladyhawk, that's interesting and worth looking in to.  However, my gut tells me that they would have lived very near to a port as being in/on water is the type of work Edgar always did  (dredger, mariner etc).  Nevertheless, I will see how much more I can find out about Reginald.


Again you may already have this info. confirms Swansea till 1880

Unfortunately Edgar James Went’s home address or marital status not given see link for full details  http://www.swanseamariners.org.uk/swanseamariners.php

Edgar James Went b1849 Brightlingsea Essex A B
Ship Velindra http://www.swanseamariners.org.uk/shipsregister.php

Sign on date 25 04 1878 sign off date 20  7 1878
  “       “            25 07 1878  “         “            26 10 1878
“        “             08 04 1879 “           “           28   7 1879
                        29 08 1879                           21  1 1880
                        20 01 1880                           24 07 1880 port of discharge Swansea

nothing after this date

1871 RG10; Piece: 1093; Folio: 124 - Sussex England
Ship Purveyor
Edgar James Went unmarried c1849 Brightlingsea Essex AB Seaman


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Re: Mary Ann Went (nee Jones) - I'm stuck!
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 02 June 13 15:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you! I didn't know that information existed! 

On his marriage certificate (to Beatrice Ellen) he listed his status as Bachelor.  I guess if he and Mary Ann just parted ways, and no official divorce took place, then he would feel that was the right term to use. 

Easy to see how things may not have worked out ... he was away at sea a lot!
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Re: Mary Ann Went (nee Jones) - I'm stuck!
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 02 June 13 16:02 BST (UK) »
you can rule out the 1876 Reginald, his father was Francis Bernard

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VF8W-FYS
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Mary Ann Went (nee Jones) - I'm stuck!
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 02 June 13 16:57 BST (UK) »
you can rule out the 1876 Reginald, his father was Francis Bernard

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VF8W-FYS
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Oh well at least you didn’t have to buy the certificate to find out it was wrong

back to the drawing board  finding a Mary Ann JONES with father James occ Farmer on the 1851/61 census – difficult with the name Mary & Jones in Wales

I wonder if we can assume that she was born somewhere around the Swansea area,
her age 22 on 1872 marriage cert. so born c 1850

Did Edgar & Mary marry in a Church - if so what was the name?

There are three birth entries on FreeBMD for 1850 Reg. district Swansea
Mary Ann Jones Mar 1850, Jun 1850 & Sep 1850

also  MAJ 1851 (x 2) & 1852 (x 1)

I wonder if either of the witnesses to their marriage may give us a clue

John Coslet & Alfred Henry Thorpe

Interesting that the 1872 marriage FreeBMD also has a Mary COSLET on the same page
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Re: Mary Ann Went (nee Jones) - I'm stuck!
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 21:02 BST (UK) »
Edgar appears in the British Newspaper archive a few times - some are related to absconding from is master's service in 1870, when an apprentice. There's also something from the Belfast News-Letter of Monday 23 April 1877 but the free search result doesn't give enough clues