Can Rootschat members help? - Lost Teddy Bear 'Seeks' Owner

[Pels.]

I think the airport authorities are trying to find the person who lost the bear in the departure lounge.  That person is not necessarily in any way related to the people in the photograph.

That's the way I understand it too, Erato.

Also, taking into consideration the effort involved, it seems a shame to repeat information
already found.

Pels.

[Jane Masri]

There are two routes to find out about the bear.  Route 1, to find a living relative of those children in the photo who might or might not know who left it at Bristol airport & route 2, for the airport authorities to ascertain, possibly by way of CCTV camera footage (if it still exists) who had them in their possesion.  From the footage they might see if the person was male or female, travelling alone or with another person, flights boarding when they left that particular area at that time. I'm sure they could get many clues but I'm equally sure they must have better things to do    We've done our part we can only hope something comes of it 

Jane

[KGarrad]

The only problem is that Bristol Airport is an EasyJet hub, and a holiday flight centre.
At times there are many hundreds of passengers - getting through security can take over 30 minutes!!

I would imagine that they have tried CCTV already?

[Pels.]

In all honesty if someone presented me with the bear for whatever reason ....

Would I want to take it on a plane ?   No.

Would I want to take it home ?   No.

What if it was abandoned 'accidentally on purpose' ??

And if that is the case, there could be someone somewhere - desperately trying to avoid capture ! 

[Erato]

The bear was lost or abandoned more than a year ago and probably only came to light when airport personnel did their periodic clean-out of the lost belongings storage room.  Since it was a more interesting item than the average raincoat, they have attempted to locate the owner.  Given the elapsed time, there may no longer be useful video available and, even if there is, that is a very labor intensive and costly way to go about identifying the owner.  Media publicity is cheaper.  The bear has received extensive publicity in Britain and yet apparently no one has come forward to claim it.   I conclude that:

1)  the owner has since died, or
2)  the owner is not in Britain and is unaware of the publicity, or
3)  the owner does not want to be found, or
4)  it is [as was suggested many pages back] a publicity stunt

[Treetotal]

For people new to the post here is Milly's earlier recap of the research carried out to date on the Baker Family match found by Hampshire Lass and what has been discovered so far:

UPDATED RECAP:

Just to recap what I think we KNOW or can reasonably assume: to help us keep it straight!

Census info confirms Kenneth George Baker's parents as Nicholas James Baker and Florence Edith, We know they married about 1908. 

There is a marriage 1908 for these 4 names: (2 x Florence but middle names Edith and James suggest it is the right one with maiden name WILLEY )

Marriages Jun 1908  Pontypridd    11a   1047   
BAKER    Nicholas James         
Baxter    Florence             
PRICE    William         
Willey    Florence Edith         

UPDATE: Bessie Waters sister in law in census dies in 1924, had lived in Blaenavon and was daughter of late George Willey of Thornbank, Caerphilly. (NB: Thornbank is also name of house the bakers lived in in Blaenavon and Florence's sister's maiden name was Willey which almost confirms that marriage is right)

ALSO
We know that Nicholas G Baker born 4 Oct 1916 - was Nicholas Glyn Baker (from death reg) fits with birth reg Dec Qtr 1916
And we know that his mother's maiden name was Willey.
And we know that Dora E Baker's mother's maiden name was also Willey.

If we assume Kenneth's mother was Florence Edith Willey too - that links all three children and those parents at that address in Blaenavon.

(What we don't have is any baptism or birth cert info to confirm that Florence was mother to Kenneth AND ALSO to Nicholas Glyn and Dora - but it looks likely)

LOCATION
Blaenavon is in South Wales and not too far from where the photo was probably taken (various offices around Monmouthshire and Glamorgan)

THEORY:
We THOUGHT that the photo was taken on what would have been the late Kenneth George Baker's birthday 4th March (and that he is probably "Baby") but ........he was apparently 10 months old on April 2 1911 - so that does not fit with a march birthday. The birth reg for him is June Quarter 1910


At this time Nicholas Glyn was about 1 yr 5 months old having been born 4 October 1916 (fits with inscription on photo)
Dora E is slightly older and photo fits her age of about 4  - birth reg June Q 1914

PHOTO
We don't know what is on the Tankard as we still don't have a high res photo of it
We think it is the same bear who has had most bits repaired over the years.

Milly


Carol

[Chrissie4]

I conclude that:

1)  the owner has since died, or
2)  the owner is not in Britain and is unaware of the publicity, or
3)  the owner does not want to be found, or
4)  it is [as was suggested many pages back] a publicity stunt

Or possibly 5) Gone abroad and so unaware of the publicity?

[Pels.]

Even I think I'm getting monotonous    but I still don't think it's the same bear ! 

Added :

I posted an update in the belief that people would leave it at that until any new information came in regarding ownership...the constant references to "Is it isn't it" the same bear to me is irrelevant and doesn't add anything to what has already been said....the necessary information to further  this enquiry is being lost and once again it is necessary to go back to read what is relevant.
Carol

In retrospect some people might not see the relevance - to me, the attraction of this particular thread is the mystery surrounding the image and the bear being found together. Therefore, it surely does matter whether it's the same bear. If the pair were thought not to match - there's a good chance we wouldn't have had this fantastic response.

Pels.

[Maggie.]

I'm trying, and failing, to find a picture of Airport Bear in profile because if it IS the same bear he has quite a distinctive nose.

Even allowing for extensive renovation work over the years, in my opinion those ears don't look to match the ears of the original though.