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Re: Can Rootschat members help? - Lost Teddy Bear 'Seeks' Owner
« Reply #585 on: Thursday 30 January 14 18:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I agree re the helping others because we want to, enjoy it etc. but would it not be fair to say that the press & airport are not aware it was HL who found the family & address as the owner was not at home in this country to receive the rootschat letter so it is still unopened, reading between the lines? So as far as all are concerned it is a Cyprus address with no proof that HL's find was relevant at this stage???

Annie
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Re: Can Rootschat members help? - Lost Teddy Bear 'Seeks' Owner
« Reply #586 on: Thursday 30 January 14 18:20 GMT (UK) »
Great result, well done to all involved, especially H.L.  ;D. I hope RC gets the recognition it deserves. 

What surprises me is, with the name (Glyn) on the photo and additional Baker information provided by RC, that airport staff didn't connect a passenger flying out of Bristol on that day called Robert GLYN BAKER.  ???

Hi,

The airport were searching for over a yr prior to RC getting involved and Robert may not have used his middle name
(added) & were they not searching for 2 females ???

Annie
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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Can Rootschat members help? - Lost Teddy Bear 'Seeks' Owner
« Reply #587 on: Thursday 30 January 14 18:47 GMT (UK) »
Didn't we give the Airport the name Baker anyway though? It could have been solved back in the summer if they had checked using that name.

I actually want and expect no glory for myself........it was just an enjoyable pastime, spurred on by my belief that the photo of the children was truly adorable and shouldn't up in a dustbin but be returned to the family, who obviously valued it enough to place it in hand luggage.

However, I really did want the team of RC to be recognised by the media as a team to be valued....and at the moment that doesn't seem to be the case.
Best wishes HL


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Re: Can Rootschat members help? - Lost Teddy Bear 'Seeks' Owner
« Reply #588 on: Thursday 30 January 14 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi HL,

I know you don't want glory and yes I do think RC should definitely be mentioned & praised for sure. I was merely thinking of reasons why it hadn't happened rather than jump the gun.......benefit of the doubt really but at the same time HL you ought to be proud as we are all genuinely proud of you & your breakthrough  ;D :P

I also agree with Trystan, GMTV would highlight the forensics of it all without wearing a chequered hat   ;D ::)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Can Rootschat members help? - Lost Teddy Bear 'Seeks' Owner
« Reply #589 on: Thursday 30 January 14 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Aaw Annie that's kind of you  :) Thank you  :)

I don't want the media to say HL found the family, I just really want them to say RC found them and then I'll be happy.
Best wishes HL


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Re: Can Rootschat members help? - Lost Teddy Bear 'Seeks' Owner
« Reply #590 on: Thursday 30 January 14 23:54 GMT (UK) »
We only have second/third hand reports that the airport DID look for possible travellers who left the bear behind ( ;)).
Of course it is not their job to chase up owners of lost items, so I am not blaming them, but they may only have initially had a cursory glance at a passenger list or two (rather than spending time actively searching for bear's owner) and may not have even taken any notice of this thread or HL's breakthrough find. I find it amazingly good luck that they even kept the bear, and in the end it is a good outcome.
One mention of rootschat in the media would be a nice reward for HL and everyone's time though.

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Re: Can Rootschat members help? - Lost Teddy Bear 'Seeks' Owner
« Reply #591 on: Friday 31 January 14 00:35 GMT (UK) »
Ruskie,

Do you think there is a reason not to include RC ?

This would actually put WDYTYA into the background.

The research on the TED puzzle was all done with team work, combined effort, close scrutinisation, comparison, diligence, co-operation to name a list of words, by TOTAL strangers, with no face to face meetings, no phenominal research fees nor any extra info. - only the bare minimum facts (pardon the pun) & free policing with HL getting the breakthrough.

So, in effect, the cost of the investigation for finding the culprit  ;D was a whole load of many man hours, much debate, comparing of notes, lab testing (to find out where the pics originated)  ;D, door to door enquiries  ;D for analyses to find the DNA to link them etc. etc.

Total cost £000,000.00  I think the TV would love to run a story, think of the income they would generate for themselves as it is a unique thing with so much involved to get to the finishing line & would capture an audience as it is just like a forensic search with evidence needed to conclude it  :-)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Can Rootschat members help? - Lost Teddy Bear 'Seeks' Owner
« Reply #592 on: Friday 31 January 14 00:55 GMT (UK) »
No clue if there is any kind of agenda Annie - I wouldn't think so ....  :-\

Possibly so many people providing so much information, and so many questions to the airport staff that the role of rootschatters was lost - nobody knowing who provided what information?  :-\

I think the whole search began with the wrong interpretation of what was written on the back of the postcard, so confusion from the start. I don't know if anyone apart from rootschatters were involved in the search or were able to come to with any (or the same) information or reach the same conclusion about the family as rootschatters.

 ... I really don't know ...

Yes, it IS a great story, especially looking at it the way you describe - but that angle hasn't been picked up by the media yet has it? (not sure but I think Trystan was perhaps hinting at some coverage with a more 'human interest' angle which might include rootschat?)

Be interesting to see how it all pans out.  :)

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Re: Can Rootschat members help? - Lost Teddy Bear 'Seeks' Owner
« Reply #593 on: Friday 31 January 14 01:03 GMT (UK) »
No, I'm not hinting at anything that we're doing. The human interest side of it is partly a reflection on how little coverage there was in the papers today, despite the press release.

Without the wider human interest bit of it, the hunt and capturing the hearts of so many on here, the WW1 soldier that fell in Bhagdad in the centenary commemoration, it's not the big story that it could be.

What I was alluding to was for a journalist to pick up on it.

Trystan
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