Can Rootschat members help? - Lost Teddy Bear 'Seeks' Owner

[Pels.]

In reply to Milly's query (reply #266) 

Burial's in Parish of Blaenavon - 1913
Kenneth George Baker, Thornbank, Tonmawr
Burial date : February 24th, Age : 2 years

Pels.

[dawnsh]

matches the family address on the CWGC citation 

[loobylooayr]

 
Nicholas James Baker died  in Mesapotania ( Greece) 11 days  after the photo was taken.

I would guess that the card was never sent to Daddie.
Was it written after his death and kept with the teddy?

That seems like quite a good theory. Or written before they knew he was dead and not posted?

Milly

The card may have reached Daddie and could have been returned to his family with his personal effects after his death.

Looby

[millymcb]

Or that of course Looby..

[Hampshire Lass]

Well, we've gone over our allotted 20 odd pages, do we all turn into pumpkins Trystan 

Hiya Pumpkin,
We're letting this one run as long as it needs to be as there are so many incoming links to this story.
Fellow Pumpkin

Just a thought Trystan but if we think we're now researching the right lead might it be an idea to sumarise the facts we have and start a new thread......perhaps not.....just a thought   

[janan]

The photo was taken on 4 March 1918 which was 'Baby's' birthday and it was presumably taken in Wales, if this is the correct family.  Baby was presumably Kenneth G.

Except Kenneth George is recorded as only 10 months old on the 1911 census which was taken on 2nd April 

Jan 

[Berlin-Bob]

Just a thought Trystan but if we think we're now researching the right lead might it be an idea to sumarise the facts we have and start a new thread.

Probably better not to start a new topic - it gets confusing for newcomers and guests.

But a summary every so often is always good

And because people forget, I'll just add a reminder here:
to read long topics, just click on the "Print" button - it wont actually be printed, but the whole topic will be displayed on one page (without any images), which is also handy for searching ....
http://www.rootschat.com/help/faqs.php#long_topics


Bob

[AngelFish]

Does anyone live in the area that would be willing to use their local library to look up newspaper obituaries?  Might link some people or give a bit of family history?

[millymcb]

In reply to Milly's query (reply #266) 

Burial's in Parish of Blaenavon - 1913
Kenneth George Baker, Thornbank, Tonmawr
Burial date : February 24th, Age : 2 years

Pels.

Excellent....

So - we DEFINITELY know that Kenneth George was the son of Nicholas J Baker the soldier who died August 1918.

Just to recap what I think we KNOW or can reasonably assume: to help us keep it straight!

Census info confirms Kenneth George Baker's parents as Nicholas James Baker and Florence Edith who married about 1908.

There is a marriage 1908 for these 4 names: (2 x Florence but middle names Edith and James suggest it is the right one with maiden name WILLEY )

Marriages Jun 1908  Pontypridd    11a   1047   
BAKER    Nicholas James        
Baxter    Florence             
PRICE    William        
Willey    Florence Edith        

ALSO
We know that Nicholas G Baker born 4 Oct 1916 - was Nicholas Glyn Baker (from death reg)
And we know that his mother's maiden name was Willey.
And we know that Dora E Baker's mother's maiden name was also Willey.

If we assume Kenneth's mother was Florence Edith Willey too - that links all three children and those parents at that address in Blaenavon.

(What we don't have is any baptiism or birth cert info to confirm that Florence was mother to Kenneth AND ALSO to Nicholas Glyn and Dora - but it looks likely)

LOCATION
Blaenavon is in South Wales and not too far from where the photo was probably taken (various offices around Monmouthshire and Glamorgan)

THEORY:
We think that the photo was taken on what would have been the late Kenneth George Baker's birthday 4th March 1910 (and that he is probably "Baby")
At this time Nicholas Glyn was about 1 yr 5 months old having been born 4 October 1916
Dora is slightly older and photo fits her age of about 5 - born 1913

PHOTO
We don't know what is on the Tankard as we still don't have a high res photo of it
We think it is the same bear who has had most bits repaired over the years.


Is that right so far? Do we KNOW or assume anything else?

Milly