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Re: Missing wife of William Cooke, Chesterfield
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 30 May 13 13:53 BST (UK) »
I think they moved to Staffordshire.
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Re: Missing wife of William Cooke, Chesterfield
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 30 May 13 13:55 BST (UK) »
Have you found them on Census? Under what name etc?

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Re: Missing wife of William Cooke, Chesterfield
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 30 May 13 13:55 BST (UK) »
1871
Walsall Wood
John Spotwood 44
Caroline 45
Jemima 21
+ bunch of extra kids
RG10 2967 98

(sorry, slow typist  :) )
Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: Missing wife of William Cooke, Chesterfield
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 May 13 14:12 BST (UK) »
I'm slow too typing!
Excellent find :)
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Re: Missing wife of William Cooke, Chesterfield
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 May 13 15:12 BST (UK) »
Here are all the names

1871
Walsall Wood
John Spotwood m 44 hawker Yorks Sheffield
Caroline wife 45 Derbys Chesterfield?
Jemima dau unm 21 hawker Yorks Barnsley
Ruth dau unm 18? Hawker Yorks Attercliffe
Anna dau 13 Worcs Dudley
Mary dau 5 Staffs Walsall Wood
Estaline 3 ditto
Samuel son 1 ditto

1881
Walsall Foreign, Birmingham Rd
John Spotwood head m 54 earthenware dealer Sheffield Yorks
Caroline wife m 54 Chesterfield Derbys
Mary Jane dau unm 18 Ogley Hay Staffs
Caroline dau 11 scholar Walsall Wood Staffs
Samuel son 10 ditto ditto
Rose dau 8 ditto ditto

RG11 2831 102

There is a Hannah C(larinda?) Spotwood birth in 1859 Kingswinford  subdist, Dudley
That could be "Anna" perhaps in 1871. I can't see any of them in 1861.



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Re: Missing wife of William Cooke, Chesterfield
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 30 May 13 21:55 BST (UK) »
Thank-you for all these replies; I have just got back from a day out, and am trying to take in the wealth of information. William Cook(e)'s parents were Thomas and Elizabeth, and he was a coal miner. In 1851 he was living at Newbold Moor; in 1861, Alsop's Place, Newbold; in 1871, 7 Alsop's Houses; and 1881, 7 Alsop's Row. He probably died 1882. His status is given as married throughout, and he did not marry Rebecca Thorley, with whom he had a daughter in 1871, as she married another miner in 1875. The Caroline Bostock/Cook/Spotswood you have traced  looks a strong candidate for the missing wife. I had guessed that the missing wife was in an institution, as William continues to describe himself as married; if Caroline did marry John Spotswood, it must have been bigamous, though perhaps William did not know about this. I clearly need to have a good look at the censuses and then order some certificates. I keep writing up chunks of family history, but it appears that this branch of the family needs a novelist rather than an amateur historian!
Anyway, many thanks for your help. If you have the interest/energy to come up with any more information, please do; and if you can use your experience to come up with better interpretations than mine, then again I would love to hear them.
Repeated thanks
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Re: Missing wife of William Cooke, Chesterfield
« Reply #15 on: Friday 31 May 13 03:29 BST (UK) »
Hi JohnE,
Divorce was out of the question for poorer people in those times, maybe they decided to just go their own ways.
It is surprising that William still put himself down as Mar though in Census.

1891 Caroline is in Aston, Warwickshire, down as born c 1838, Chesterfield, Derbyshire.
With her is;
Rose 19
Samuel 21
Caroline 23
+ Challis 1 and Jemima 8 (desc. as her Children but bit of a confused entry when you look at actual image)

She is hard to find in 1901 but may be under Caroline Spotswood, Pauper, Widow, born c 1827, Sheffield, Yorkshire, in the Workhouse in Yorks.
If so this is her Death Reg;
Caroline SPOTSWOOD, March 1902, Eccleshall, 9c 271, age 74 (Birth c 1828)

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Re: Missing wife of William Cooke, Chesterfield
« Reply #16 on: Friday 31 May 13 17:26 BST (UK) »
I think the young Jemima is the daughter of Jemima from the 1871 census
1891
Caroline Spotwood wid 53
Rose ditto dau s  19
Samuel ditto son m 21
Caroline ditto dau m 23
Charles Ashford lodger m 21
John Pool lodger s 54
Charles Ashford s 1
Jemima Lees dau 8 b Walsall Wood

1881
James Lees m 30 earthenware dealer Blythe Bridge Staffs
Jemmimah ditto m 28 Barnsley Yorks
Hannah ditto dau 8 Wellington Shropshire
James ditto son 7 Walsall Wood Staffs
Thomas ditto son 5 ditto
John ditto son 1m ditto

1901
Jemima Leese Spotwood head m 46 earthenware dealer Barnsley, Yorks
James Leese son s 26
John ditto 20
Jimima dau 18
Thomas son 14
children born Walsall Woods

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Re: Missing wife of William Cooke, Chesterfield
« Reply #17 on: Friday 15 May 15 19:34 BST (UK) »
Just a point as to why William Cooke would continue to describe himself as married - in 1861 he is living next door to his sister in law Jemima White nee Bostock.
The Bostocks were travellers with strong gypsy connections wives and husbands decamping with others was quite common.