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Battle for Dublin 1922
« on: Thursday 23 May 13 10:48 BST (UK) »
Can somebody help please. while looking for info on my grandfather James Sheridan, I came across his daughters birth certificate of 1922 the named him as  E4 Soldier.  I have looked in every irish military site there is, and he can not be found.
He was a labourer in 1920, and there was no European war at the time, so he joined up for a reason.
The british army has no prefix like E4 in their ranks. But the americans do. it means specialist corporal.
Would this suggest he was an  `Irregular` Anti treaty Republican ?
I can not find anything on him at all.
Can somebody suggest the best way of finding out......please.
I believe he was born in 1900, and lived in Coombe St Dublin South.

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Re: Battle for Dublin 1922
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 May 13 11:00 BST (UK) »
Not sure that an Anti-Treaty 'irregular' would risk incriminating himself by putting soldier on a cert...

The other force in existence at the time would have been the new Free State Army.

What's the exact date of the birth cert ?
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Re: Battle for Dublin 1922
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 May 13 11:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the reply. I am very sorry to say that I have had a look at the birth certificate, and found a different date to what I was told.  She was born 30 September 1924.

Surely the civil war had ended by then ?    So what could E4 soldier mean ?

I will attempt to add the picture of the certificate as an attachment.

Thanks again.

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Re: Battle for Dublin 1922
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 May 13 11:15 BST (UK) »
Occupation is 'Ex Soldier'
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Battle for Dublin 1922
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 May 13 11:16 BST (UK) »
full certs are not allowed - just small section are permitted to help with deciphering etc, so the full cert has been replaced with extracts
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Re: Battle for Dublin 1922
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 May 13 11:21 BST (UK) »
Civil war ended about May 1923.

If your James was in the Free State Army from when it formed the he might appear on the Army census of Nov 1922 - see : Army Census


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Re: Battle for Dublin 1922
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 May 13 11:28 BST (UK) »
No, I have looked.  I have looked on that census and every site I can find. seems strange that he`s a soldier...with no record whatsoever.

Thanks anyway.

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Re: Battle for Dublin 1922
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 23 May 13 11:45 BST (UK) »
I dont think all of that Army census is available or online so there could be more soldiers. If he served in the Free State army you can try contacting the Military Archives to visit in person, or try to arrange a search for possible service records, but I hear there is quite a long backlog..

note : Personnel files for officers and enlisted since 1922 are available to next of kin only - you have to provide proof of relationship, e.g. certs etc
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Re: Battle for Dublin 1922
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 May 13 12:10 BST (UK) »
Could he be an ex-soldier of the British Army then?

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