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Missing Grandfather; John Joseph Tomany
« on: Thursday 23 May 13 04:11 BST (UK) »
My Maternal grandfather John Joseph Tomany, born 17th July, 1902, Glasgow; Statutory Births 646/01 0568

He vanishedm never to be heard of again after the 'suspicious death' of his wife, Jemima Tomany in Withington; July 1939.
More info here in a separate thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=647847.new;topicseen#new

I've scoured lots n lots n lots of records - but have never managed to find him anywhere.

Can anyone help?

Thanks
Yorkshire - Johnson, Rawlings, Bland, Lumley,
Lancs - Tomany, Chisholm.
Fraserburgh - Watt, Sim, Fraser, Noble, Lascelles.
NE Scotland - Davidson, Dalgarno.
Glasgow/Lanark - Tomany, Davidson.
Ireland - Tomany, Canning, Hughes, Donelly, Nevil.
Rutland - Charity, Rawlings.
N.England - Ede, Marlow.
Queensland - Day, Winterford.
In General - Tomany

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Re: Missing Grandfather; John Joseph Tomany
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 May 13 12:57 BST (UK) »
A few people to look at
Lancashre bmd,

Joseph Timony marriage ,Manchester register or registrar attended 1941

J V, Tomany,marriage Manchester Withington St Christopher,1952,is she his daughter,names after her mother
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Missing Grandfather; John Joseph Tomany
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 May 13 14:23 BST (UK) »
Yes Radcliff - JV (Jemima Violet) is his daughter. Violet - as we called her got married to Sidney Reid in 1952 in Manchester.

Sounds worth looking into that Timony 1941 marriage - do u have the GRO numbers - do people lookup certificates?

I'm just practising saying Tomany in accent that's half glasgow n half lancs LOL ....
Yorkshire - Johnson, Rawlings, Bland, Lumley,
Lancs - Tomany, Chisholm.
Fraserburgh - Watt, Sim, Fraser, Noble, Lascelles.
NE Scotland - Davidson, Dalgarno.
Glasgow/Lanark - Tomany, Davidson.
Ireland - Tomany, Canning, Hughes, Donelly, Nevil.
Rutland - Charity, Rawlings.
N.England - Ede, Marlow.
Queensland - Day, Winterford.
In General - Tomany

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Re: Missing Grandfather; John Joseph Tomany
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 May 13 21:12 BST (UK) »
I use Lancashire bmd site as it gives church names,

and I appologise its 1941

Joseph Tymony and Eleanor Bohen
MCR/25/68

added you cant look up a certificate you have to buy it,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Missing Grandfather; John Joseph Tomany
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 May 13 21:36 BST (UK) »
On the same site you will find an Eleanor Bohen ,birth registered St George Manchester 1904
Possible sisters Winifrid and Mary Edna,so she may be worth investigating
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Missing Grandfather; John Joseph Tomany
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 May 13 22:16 BST (UK) »
Death registered Manchester,
July August September.1985
Joseph Timony
estimated birth 1904
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Missing Grandfather; John Joseph Tomany
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 May 13 23:02 BST (UK) »
Eleanor Timony b 10.12.1904 died December qtr 1981 Macclesfield Cheshire Volume 35 Page 0844

2 children born to that marriage in 1941 and 1945

Michael John b 1941 died 1992 Lancaster
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Re: Missing Grandfather; John Joseph Tomany
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 May 13 02:12 BST (UK) »
Interesting Thanks to both of you.

I think will have to check out further.

From my understanding it is possible to view original certificates at certain places? If this is true do you's have any clues where this could be done (I might have to try twisting one of my UK nieces arms) :-)

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Yorkshire - Johnson, Rawlings, Bland, Lumley,
Lancs - Tomany, Chisholm.
Fraserburgh - Watt, Sim, Fraser, Noble, Lascelles.
NE Scotland - Davidson, Dalgarno.
Glasgow/Lanark - Tomany, Davidson.
Ireland - Tomany, Canning, Hughes, Donelly, Nevil.
Rutland - Charity, Rawlings.
N.England - Ede, Marlow.
Queensland - Day, Winterford.
In General - Tomany

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Re: Missing Grandfather; John Joseph Tomany
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 May 13 15:08 BST (UK) »
Have a look at this article from the Liverpool Family History website re: local lookups

http://www.forum.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=6937

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