Author Topic: Please help! I can't locate births of Kelleher/Kellehar children in Bermondsey  (Read 2363 times)

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What is interesting on the 1911 census is that on the column for nationality all the family (except mother Maria) are shown as Catholic.   This is a good reason why no baptism's are shown because catholic baptisms are not included on the archives. Its a wonder that Alice Maria was on the register.

Also from the 1911 census it shows Ruth as 5 months old.  With the census taken on the 2nd/3rd of April that would give a birth around October/November 1910 so she should be registered either Dec Qtr 1910 or March Qtr 1911.  Doing a freebmd search for all Ruth's registered countrywide in those 2 quarters shows nothing resembling Kelleher - very strange

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Re: Please help! I can't locate births of Kelleher/Kellehar children in Bermondsey
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 22 May 13 23:14 BST (UK) »
It looks like the Elizabeth Kalahar born St Olave 1905 is on the 1911 census in Bermondsey with her parents John & Caroline Kalahar.  Sister Caroline registered 1903 St Olave.

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Re: Please help! I can't locate births of Kelleher/Kellehar children in Bermondsey
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 May 13 23:42 BST (UK) »
London, England, Confirmation Records have entries for Florence Mary Kellehar aged 14, on 15 Mar 1921 at Camberwell, St Bartholomew, Surrey and also on the same date John Kellehar aged 13- both at the same address 83 Verney Road. May not be your family.
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on the 1921 London Electoral Register there is Maria Kelleher living at 85 Verney Road.  The other person recorded at the address is a James Kelleher. The same Maria & James are at that address until at least 1927.

However on the 1918 Register there is a Jeremiah & Maria at 53 Verney Road!!!

To much of a coincidence I think -

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Florence M Kelleher marries a Arthur Burden Sept Qtr 1925 at St.Olave 1d 372

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Thanks Ray and Beth - Verney Road is my family, my nan grew up at number 83.  Ray, I had wondered about James Kellehar on the Electoral Register, I wondered if Jeremiah's middle name was James or something like that and he interchanged them but I haven't been able to find his birth yet (surprise surprise), so until then I won't know. 
I've got the marriages (thanks though).  I tried every which way I could think of spelling Kellehar on FreeBMD with no joy at all.  Would be great to find at least one of the Billingshurst births!

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Do you know Jeremiahs fathers name - from the marriage certificate?  Its just that there is a Jeremiah Kenly on the 1871 census in Bermondsey with a father Jeremiah:

Household Members:   Name               Age
                                Jeremiah Kenly       32     Ireland
                                Elizth Kenly       30     Ireland
                                Margaret Kenly       10     Bermondsey
                                Mary Kenly        7      Bermondsey
                                Jeremiah Kenly        6      Bermondsey  (1865 birth)
                                Edward Kenly       2 Months

On the 1881 census his age is 13 giving a 1868 birth.  Again I can't find any name that looks like Kelleher for a Jeremiah birth between 1865 & 1868 in Bermondsey (or Lambeth) but there is a Jeremiah Connelly in Bermondsey in 1865 which could have been heard as Kenly?

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Hi Ray,
Yes Jeremiah's father was a Jeremiah too, and a hoop bender like his son.  I think I have him on the 1871 and 1881 censuses - surname is Kelley in 1871 and Kelly in 1881.  I haven't found them prior to 1871 yet, although I think they should be in the same area in 1861 as their son Ted was born in Tooley Street in about 1859...
Appreciate your help!


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There is a Jeremiah Kelly birth registered Dec 1867 St George Southwark 1d 136 (right area and date)

Can't find any 1871 census for any other likely Jeremiah apart from yours.

There is also a birth which matches Ellen:

Ellen Louise Kelly Dec qtr 1870 Lambeth 1d 389
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