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Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Fitzgerald's of The Abbey Skibbereen / Lisbealad Dunmanway Cork
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 16 June 24 06:38 BST (UK) »

Does this seem like the same family tree as your great grandfather, Richard Fitzgerald.
Born - 4 Dec 1807 Cork, St Finbarr's (South), Cork city, Ireland
Died :Dec 1903 Lisbealad, Co.Cork, Ireland


Richard Fitzgerald died 17 November 1903. His son Matthew Fitzgerald was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05642/4587823.pdf

After many years of research & coming back to this story, the particular details listed above, is what I believe is a very distant Uncle to myself.
The Richard listed as above, had a younger Brother - Thomas, who baptised in 1810, in the same church (South Parish) with the same Parents as Richard (William Fitzgerald & Catherine Godson).
Thomas was married in 1837 to an Elizabeth Ambrose "somewhere" in Cork (listed as Cork & Ross), it's listed only only as an index of marriage bonds. Thomas & Elizabeth came to Australia in 1840/1841 & settled as free immigrants in Sydney.
I got trapped in a very large brickwall, where I have details of these people, but I believe the previous researchers in my family, may have been clutching at straws / presumptive guesses at the parentage of William Fitzgerald - we have a Maurice Fitzgerald & Anne Fitton listed. But DNA suggests something much different.
We don't know what happened to Thomas's brother - Richard, but if the details you have provided above are 100% correct, it directly points to the actual elder brother of our Thomas.
The only device I have to go on, is DNA. But I need to know who has done their DNA & places where Richard's family lived/stayed around for a few decades or the families they involved themselves with.
Using multiple Australian DNA relative matches, I have found that the immigrants Thomas Fitzgerald / Elizabeth Ambrose, are connected 100% undeniable-hard core-community linked to Durrus/Schull/Bantry district. It links to the names & other directly connected families of - Swanton/Camier/Kingston/Copithorne & possibly a Gosnell/s name. I suspect the Ambrose name maybe of this area, as indicated by a 1960's document from Dublin Castle (Genealogical Office).
There could be a historical name change of an earlier Gosnell to a later Godsell/Godson, which fits with my story. Previous researchers have listed our Godson name goes back to a Limerick Godsell family, but again, DNA does not highlight a connection to the Limerick area.
But the case in point, is that I am trying to understand, if the Richard Fitzgerald listed above is confirmed or only a suggestive relative to you guys.
As I am trying to understand if my Thomas may have had a reason to leave Cork City & marry in the West. Thomas may have travelled with Richard??
Thomas was baptised as RC, but left Ireland for Australia in 1841 as a Protestant, we remained that way till around late 1910's (the marriage of my Great Grandparents), where the Protestant Fitzgerald name was transitioned back to RC.
Researching :
Maternal - Hasler (Parliament + Photographers) - mid 1700's+, Galway City & Dublin
Paternal - Fitzgerald - mid 1700's+, Cork City
Maternal - MacNevin (Solicitor's) - mid 1700's+, Dublin
Maternal - Newenham (Parliament, Military) - mid 1700's+, Cork & Dublin
Maternal - Persse (Moyode+Roxborough) - mid 1700's+, Galway
Others: Maternal - Blood, Blakeney (Athenry)

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Re: Fitzgerald's of The Abbey Skibbereen / Lisbealad Dunmanway Cork
« Reply #47 on: Sunday 16 June 24 13:44 BST (UK) »

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Thomas was married in 1837 to an Elizabeth Ambrose "somewhere" in Cork (listed as Cork & Ross), it's listed only only as an index of marriage bonds.

The link-
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/dm/IRE_DIOC_007246532_00373.pdf


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo