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Timothy Thorley/Ann Gregory, married 1830, Scarcliffe
« on: Saturday 18 May 13 21:55 BST (UK) »
I am having problems with this branch of the family, who seem to have led complicated lives, and are difficult to trace in census/BMD records. Rebecca THORLEY was born around 1841, Palterton, and I have first found her in the 1861 census, as a servant in the home of John Jarvis. In 1866 she married James Chilton, and her father's name is given as Timothy. I have now found on FamilySearch a marriage between Timothy Thorley and Ann Gregory, in Scarcliffe, 24 Nov 1830. They appear to have had several children (Ellen, bapt 1831, Scarcliffe; William born around 1840, Palterton, and probably others born in Palterton). But I cannot find any trace of Timothy and Ann Thorley in any census, or any record of their deaths. I have found Rebecca and William from 1861 onwards, but not before. I would be very grateful for any help in tracing this family.
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Re: Timothy Thorley/Ann Gregory, married 1830, Scarcliffe
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 May 13 21:59 BST (UK) »
I wonder if they are the 1841 entry transcribed as Shawley living in Scarcliff?  The image is so faded I'm amazed anything could be transcribed from it

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Re: Timothy Thorley/Ann Gregory, married 1830, Scarcliffe
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 May 13 22:06 BST (UK) »
This may help to confirm that 1841 entry

Births September qtr 1839   

George Thauly    Mansfield  15 493
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Re: Timothy Thorley/Ann Gregory, married 1830, Scarcliffe
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 May 13 22:15 BST (UK) »
In 1851 they are shown as Thawley - Rebecca b 1842 Patterton.  Ann is a widow

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Re: Timothy Thorley/Ann Gregory, married 1830, Scarcliffe
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 May 13 22:17 BST (UK) »
And Timothy's death reg

Deaths March qtr 1847 
Timothy Thawley  Mansfield  15 446
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Re: Timothy Thorley/Ann Gregory, married 1830, Scarcliffe
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 May 13 22:37 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for these speedy responses. I tried lots of variants (Thornley, etc.), but never came up with this one. I will get to work on this lead.
Thanks again
JohnE

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Re: Timothy Thorley/Ann Gregory, married 1830, Scarcliffe
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 May 13 17:26 BST (UK) »
Possible for Timothy;

Christening, 05 July 1807, North Wingfield, Derbyshire
TIMOTHY Thawley, Parents WILLIAM/DOCEY or Docea/Docey
Siblings;
REBECCA, 12 March 1809
MARY, 23 Feb 1812
ELLEN, 01 May 1814
WILLIAM, 25 Dec 1819

ELLEN Married David WILKINSON, 26 Nov 1838 Alfreton, Father WILLIAM
WILLIAM Married Sarah HODGIN, 01 Nov 1842, Alfreton


Marriage of William and Docey BRAILSFORD, 15 Dec 1806 North Wingfield

All on Familysearch.Org

Marriage is also on FreeREG, Docea not Docey, Both of Parish at time of Marriage, Spinster/Bachelor
Williams Jnrs Marriage is there also, Father WILLIAM, occp Tailor
Ellens is there also same info.

Looks like Timothys Parents as he and Ann name Children Ellen/John/William/George/Rebecca/Samuel.

Trish :)
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Re: Timothy Thorley/Ann Gregory, married 1830, Scarcliffe
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 May 13 20:31 BST (UK) »
Many thanks, Trish. Those are really good leads.
JohnE