Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford

[CarolRR]

Thanks Marg!  I have ordered the marriage certificate of John Fisher and Jane Barber through the GRO. 
Fingers crossed.

[Ruskie]

Thanks Marg!  I have ordered the marriage certificate of John Fisher and Jane Barber through the GRO. 
Fingers crossed.

I'm sure it must have been mentioned previously, but how did you come to believe that this John Fisher might be relevant? Just the right name in the right place at about the right time?

You are thinking he might be Harriet's son?

If so we may be hoping for NO father to be named? If age 'fits' then this will indicate that this may be 'your' John? Have I got that right? Do you have John's birth certifcate yet. (Apologies for my forgetfulness - I just need a recap on this line of investigation  )

PS. I suppose Tunincliff may have been a family friend as he witnessed so many marriages. Unusual name - you might be able to track him down via bmd and censuses ....

[CarolRR]

Hi Ruskie - yes, I am hoping that this John Fisher is 'mine'.  I do have the birth certificate for Harriet's son, John, and this guy could very well be him.  I am curious to see who (if anyone) is listed as his family. 

[CarolRR]

Hi all - I have just received the certified copy of an entry of marriage for John Fisher and Jane Barber.  The handwriting is difficult, but it appears as though it reads:
Marriage solemnized at The Parish Church in the Parish of Ilkeston, in the County of Derby
Dec. 24, 1927
John Fisher, age 21, bachelor, Lead-washer(?), 32 Richmond Avenue, father: Alfred? Fisher, Labourer
Jane Barber, age 19, Spinster, 38 Bearn? St., Thomas? Barber, Labourer
Witnesses:  William Winfield and Polly Barber.

If this "John Fisher" was 21 in 1927, then he was born in 1906 - 'my' John Fisher was born in Nov. 1905.  My 'Barber' (a DNA relative) never responded to my message where I relayed these names and asked about a possible connection. 
So ...  back to the drawing board ...

[Ruskie]

Oh dear that's not the news you were hoping for. 
As we know sometimes fathers were invented on marriage certificates possibly to appear more 'respectable'. Just to be sure, it could be worth looking for this Fisher family with father Alfred in the censuses, just for peace of mind. 
PS. You can always post the indecipherable words here so we can see what we think.

[heywood]

Yes, there is a Fisher family which would fit, looking at the indexes.
Father would be Alfred born 1862, Ilkeston with parents John and Mary.

[CarolRR]

Thanks once again Heywood!  Ruskie, I was going to ask whether I could copy the certificate to this site but now I don't think there's a need.  Perhaps Alfred and Harriet are related, but I'm not going in that direction at this point in time ...
Thanks for the comments ...

[brigidmac]

I am going to read this topic as a bedtime story

In bursts
Meanwhile if you want help working out paternal DNA link by a process of elimination I can help .  My nana. Was adopted and we didn't knownher birth mothers married name DNA linked toner ancestors and her descendants. Same for birth father

PM me I'm in Leicester..
..would you mind if we used the story for a time travel detective slot on community radio?

[CarolRR]

Hi. Thanks for your message. I have done DNA testing and have Fisher ancestry going back to 1600s. I’m still not sure if her father was a Hall but I suspect he was. The name surfaces on my paternal side too,which throws me off.
I really do not want you to use this story - I may take it public but would like to do that myself, when I’m ready. I hope you understand.
Thank you.
Carol