Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford

[CarolRR]

In Ireland, aren't family names linked to specific geographical areas?  In my DNA matches, I have relatives in the north but more in the south.  One of my Northern Ireland matches has both "Hall" and "Green" in her list of ancestors, so I have sent her a note.  My paternal clan were supposedly from the Waterford/Wexford area and emigrated from Cork. 
This Ireland research is not my priority, (I am still eager to find descendants of Harriet Fisher) but I do find it very interesting ...

[Ruskie]

In Ireland, aren't family names linked to specific geographical areas? 

Not sure - probably to a similar extent that they are in other areas:
http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/
 

[iluleah]

In Ireland, aren't family names linked to specific geographical areas?

Not really, you need a Townland at least and their religion as I said, that gives you at least a start by pinpointing the area and which records you need to look at. Ireland is no different to anywhere else, as in if the 'family' stayed in one area it can make it easier to research, 'if' your ancestor was the eldest son and if the family farmed  then it is more likely he took over the farm and remained, if not and with little census or prior to census dates it is then difficult to track family groups and /or movements.

The Irish have always been 'adventurers' and still are immigrating all over the world and nipping over to Britain and back. Sometimes it helps to look at family script and that may give you an indication of likely migrating/movement behaviour, who they worked for, job they did etc may give you areas owned by their employer both in Ireland and Britain.

[hasta]

Am catching up after missing the last few weeks. It is really great to see that steady progress is being made. I was having a look at the ORME trees on A****.
The most comprehensive one looks well researched, but from what I can figure they have a problem with their Isaac ORME who marries Ellen NEWBUTT in 1850 giving father as John ORME.
This Isaac isn't fitting with any census, but from what I can figure they appear to have 'shoehorned' him into Harriet Orme's 1841 family, among with a couple of other approaches they are taking to solve the problem, none of them really working !!! (I do this myself, and it can sometimes help find a straight line through a tangle) Any record found of her having a brother Isaac ??

However they have however continued to work on Sarah Atherley/Orme. One thing caught my eye - Her mother Sarah KNIGHTON is listed as to have been married previously to a William RYLEY in 1887 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NN87-D57
so that might explain the Methodist Baptism you found for Sarah ATHERLEY with mother named as Sarah RILEY! Possibly, Sarah converted as an adult ? perhaps she thought her mothers maiden name to be Riley/Ryley
also a marriage of John Atherley and Sarah Knighton in 1794
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NN87-NXW

Of course this is all conjecture so far but (not sure if this has been mentioned before but just in case) if you don't have easy access to an LDS center, they have a fairly new email service, where they will email high quality scans of original images to you for FREE.
You can order a max of 5 per month.
There is a 4-6 week waiting time but I'm sure you're well used to all the waiting by now !
Just check they have the microfiche roll that you need using the Catalog page.
https://familysearch.org/catalog-search
and then fill in the application form on this page
https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Photoduplication_Services
so maybe something to work on while waiting for certs to arrive. Obviously they don't have access to Civil records. I've lost track of what you have gotten, baptism records wise -  but sure there are some already found that would be helpful ? also the marriage MargeP found for John Orme and Sarah.

[cocksie]

I have looked into this Isaac Orme.
IGI has his baptism 1830 Ilkeston (b 7 apr 1824 or 1827), parents Nathaniel and Ann.
He is living with Nathaniel in 1841
Isaac's marriage to Ellen lists his dad as John. Which is possibly where the confusion starts

As far as I can tell the John Orme (b. Ireland) who married Sarah Atherley in 1814, Ilkeston, had one son, John, in 1817 - followed by daughters (including Harriet). Chasing up this marriage in 1814 via the LDS system (which sounds fantastic by the way) might provide a clue or two!

Cocksie

[Ruskie]

... if you don't have easy access to an LDS center, they have a fairly new email service, where they will email high quality scans of original images to you for FREE.
You can order a max of 5 per month.
Just check they have the microfiche roll that you need using the Catalog page.
https://familysearch.org/catalog-search
and then fill in the application form on this page
https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Photoduplication_Services

Hasta, thank you very much for this information - I was not aware of this new service. It could come in very handy. 

[CarolRR]

Thanks everyone for the info and links!  I just returned home from my 1st session at the LDS Family Search Centre where I ordered the film for John Orme and Sarah Atherley's marriage.  I spent the remainder of my time looking at "Orme" trying to find a link to John Orme's entry of "Ireland" as his place of birth.  I found my branch of "Orme" going back to 1560, all born in Derbyshire.  Maybe his mother, Ruth Green, was Irish?

[ballydw]

Hi Carol have a look at www.nationalarchives.ie in 1901 census ireland there are 79 entries for Orme surname
www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation which was a type of land survey carried out in mid 1850's, this is showing 1159 Orme entries.
Continued good wishes with your search

[Ruskie]

Thanks for keeping us up to date with your progress Carol.