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Offline susan hemmings

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #306 on: Wednesday 10 July 13 23:20 BST (UK) »
Well done there that Marg

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Bedfordshire:     Church, Brooks
Essex (Great Bardfield):   Woolard
Hertfordshire:  Day, Johnson
Kent:   Church, Bristow, Day, Pharo, Oliver, Green
London:   Brinsley, Gillbe, Dawson, Gash
Northampton:   Pharo, Ilett
Suffolk:   Day, Munnings
Yorkshire:  Oliver, Hall, Richardson

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #307 on: Thursday 11 July 13 00:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks Susan

It would be interesting to know, if there is a father mentioned on the marriage certificate, that's if it is the correct marriage, its the only one that stands out for me, all the others seem to have a middle name.

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #308 on: Thursday 11 July 13 01:00 BST (UK) »
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A public tree on A*****y has Sarah Atherley - father John Atherley, mother Sarah Knighton
married John Orme

John Orme father Nathanial Orme, mother Ruth Green

quite a few children listed
Bedfordshire:     Church, Brooks
Essex (Great Bardfield):   Woolard
Hertfordshire:  Day, Johnson
Kent:   Church, Bristow, Day, Pharo, Oliver, Green
London:   Brinsley, Gillbe, Dawson, Gash
Northampton:   Pharo, Ilett
Suffolk:   Day, Munnings
Yorkshire:  Oliver, Hall, Richardson

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #309 on: Thursday 11 July 13 01:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks Susan!  Interesting to see Knighton a possibility in Harriet's family, as Mary Caladine, wife of Thomas Fisher, had a grandmother named Flora Knighton, b. 1735.
I love, and am amazed to see this tree growing!
Thank you, so very much, to all of you!


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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #310 on: Thursday 11 July 13 10:01 BST (UK) »
Carol,

On the right track.  Wonderful.  I am so happy for you.   :)

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Bedfordshire:     Church, Brooks
Essex (Great Bardfield):   Woolard
Hertfordshire:  Day, Johnson
Kent:   Church, Bristow, Day, Pharo, Oliver, Green
London:   Brinsley, Gillbe, Dawson, Gash
Northampton:   Pharo, Ilett
Suffolk:   Day, Munnings
Yorkshire:  Oliver, Hall, Richardson

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #311 on: Thursday 11 July 13 11:03 BST (UK) »
On the censuses john Orme b. abt 1796/1797 is clearly from Ireland
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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #312 on: Thursday 11 July 13 12:33 BST (UK) »
cocksie, thank you for pointing that out - I now recall seeing that John Orme's birthplace was listed somewhere as "Ireland" ... 
Is searching for ancestors in Ireland difficult?  At one point in time, I tried to find my paternal gr-grandmother without success ...  so there's Irish on both sides of my gene pool ...  interesting ...

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #313 on: Thursday 11 July 13 14:09 BST (UK) »
cocksie, thank you for pointing that out - I now recall seeing that John Orme's birthplace was listed somewhere as "Ireland" ... 
Is searching for ancestors in Ireland difficult?  At one point in time, I tried to find my paternal gr-grandmother without success ...  so there's Irish on both sides of my gene pool ...  interesting ...

You are going into another different records system, pre 1921 all Ireland's records were kept in Dublin post 1922 they are split between Dublin for the ROI and Belfast  for NI at PRONI a 'fab' new building now in the Titanic Quarter.
Trouble is that there are no lists of movements between the island of Ireland and the island of Britain, (even now  it is free movement, no passports etc) so the difficulty you face is you need to know where in Ireland, it may be a small island but it is impossible to blanket search and still with limited online resources.
People generally repeat the " Four Courts Fire" as lost of all the Irish records, but most of those lost were not what you would use for FH, the Government deliberately also burned all the census 1841-1891 some remnants remain but not enough ( 1901/1911 remain and are online and free including each scan of each record).

The key is to find the name of your family's townland in Ireland, you need to now their religion then you have a chance of researching.
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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #314 on: Thursday 11 July 13 15:10 BST (UK) »
For some reason I have not received notifications of any replies over the past couple of days.
I just want to say how happy I am that you are making yet more progress Carol!

Regarding possible descendants of John's two children - what would be the best way to trace them and their descendants? Carol, if you find any, please let us know (obviously without mentioning names) - I am keeping my fingers crossed that you will be able to make contact with living relatives. Very exciting!  :)

Thank you for keeping us up to date with your progress.