Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford

[Ruskie]

I've already written that in my diary Monica.  It looks very promising doesn't it.
Carol may be able to download the programme (that's how I hope to be able to watch it)

[CarolRR]

heywood - I have ordered birth cert's for Harriet, Alice and John from GRO.  I won't learn much more than I already have (thanks to this group!) but they are family and I will have accurate information ...
Monica - thanks for the links.  We do get itv network programs here so I will keep an eye out - I'm sure the Workhouse program will be both enlightening and very difficult to watch ...
I am content with the search done by the people at the (old) Basford Workhouse - I wonder what became of Alice ...  I'm glad to have the specifics of John's birth.
Thanks everybody! 

[MonicaL]

Carol, this is the link to ITV player, for catch up internet linked TV www.itv.com/itvplayer/

Monica 

[Ruskie]

I am content with the search done by the people at the (old) Basford Workhouse - I wonder what became of Alice ...  I'm glad to have the specifics of John's birth.

We know Alice was in the workhouse with Harriett, but she may not have been born there. I suppose it is possible that whoever looked up these records may have missed Alice? 
I do wonder if  Alice's Harriett's condition on the 1911 census was mentioned in any workhouse documents, or if she was an inmate of any other institutions in the area ....

[CarolRR]

Ruskie, hi.  I replied to the kind soul who sent the Workhouse records indicating that Alice's family name might be showing as "Hall" and not "Fisher".  I felt it was worth a shot ...  perhaps this is why it appears that Alice isn't with her mother in 1911 ...

[Ruskie]

Yes, good thought Carol - there's no harm in asking.

Both Alice Fisher and John Fisher appear with Harriett in Bagthorpe Workhouse on the 1911 census.

I note that the search was of the Basford Workhouse records - who holds the Bagthorpe Workhouse records? (I'm sure this must have been covered before but I can't remember) We need to get a search of Bagthorpe too. 

[CarolRR]

Good day!  I have just received additional information from Nottingham Uni !!

"I have located Alice in two registers, as follows:
 
Register of Births (ref: Uhh P 7/1)
Date 6 Feb 1899
Name of parents, or mother: Hall, Harriett
Parish from which admitted: Ilkeston
In what name baptized: Alice
 
Admission and Discharge Register (ref: Uhh P 1/1)
Date 6 Feb 1899
Name: Hall, Alice
Calling, if any: None
Religious persuasion: Methodist
When born: 5.50am
Parish from which admitted: Ilkeston
By whose order: Born
If born in House, name of mother or parents: Harriett
 
I am afraid that the name of the father is not recorded."

In addition, I received an email this morning from GRO refunding the fee for Alice's birth certificate, as they say there is no record of her.  I'll try again as I had indicated that her name was "Fisher or Hall" and I'm not convinced that they would have searched for "Hall". 

Digging continues ...

[Ruskie]

 
Good news Carol!

Progress is slow, but at least it is progress. Very valuable information.

Let us know if you have more luck with the second search for Alice's birth certificate - you would think it must be there somewhere.

Alice is Methodist
John is C of E
Not sure what to make of this.

[CarolRR]

Thanks Ruskie   Yes, it is positive news.  Interesting that Harriet does use her married name at this point in time.  I noticed the difference in denominations as well - perhaps the Hall's are Methodist and Fisher's are C of E? 
Still waiting for the 2 other cert's and will try and reorder Alice Hall's!