Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford

[snowyw]

Do those records go to 1905 though?

Hhhmmm!  I see what you mean.  It seems to vary according to where in the alphabet the surname was - but none seem to go as far as 1905 - so perhaps that isn't our Alice.
Mary Ann is certainly there though.

[heywood]

Do those records go to 1905 though?

Hhhmmm!  I see what you mean.  It seems to vary according to where in the alphabet the surname was - but none seem to go as far as 1905 - so perhaps that isn't our Alice.
Mary Ann is certainly there though.

No, I meant for John Fisher.  Alice was born 1898ish.

[cocksie]

Carole
Have you tried contacting the person who posted the workhouse birth information

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NOTTSGEN/2008-05/1210302509

There is an email address - albeit the info was posted in 2008.
The poster could well have more info than just the names of the children born and , therefore, we may or may not be able to discard the Alice Hall listed.
Just a thought
Cocksie

[Stainforth]

I emailed her the day I posted the link, must have been 2 weeks ago, and have had no reply. I included a link to this thread. Also found another email address for her on another forum and emailed that one too

[cocksie]

Excellent! At least we are pursuing all avenues that we can think of.
Another thought..... In 1911 Alice Fisher is at "school". I wonder what school would be close by to the Bulwell workhouse (where the family appears to be in 1911) and if there are any records?
Cocksie

Adding
Looks like the workhouse ran a day school

[ballydw]

http:/www.workhouses.org.uk  has a lot of information on Basford Union Workhouse including 1881 census List of Inmates which includes a James Fisher b. Ilkeston Derbyshire

[millymcb]

Hi Cocksie,

I think that was why that Alice Fisher was discounted - it is all a bit difficult with the names and places of birth, isn't it

It's a pity that no workhouse records have shown up.

Somewhere in these 2 or 3 threads of copious postings I recall Carole had requested info for an incorrect narrow timeframe at Basford.  She was going to ask again with corrected possible dates .... But for the life of me I cannot find these postings nor find the outcome ....

Reply 78 on this thread has this:

Good morning to all, and thanks to each one of you for your suggestions - definitely worth following up on.

In my inbox this morning, I found the following reply from the Nottingham Archives people (I had mentioned to them that Harriet, daughter Alice and son John were all showing as residents of the Workhouse in the 1911 census):

"Reference: DB/EH/70/3/13-1160
Please Ask For: Search Room

Dear Ms Reid

Thank you for your email of 17 May 2013.
 
We can confirm that we hold the Nottingham Union Workhouse records.   We have consulted the following records:
 
Ref:  SO/PUO/2/6/9
Indexes to indoor relief lists, 1905 - c1910
 
Names not found
 
Ref:  SO/PUO/2/1/44
Admission and discharge register, Aug 1910 - May 1911
 
Names not found.
 
Please note that there are earlier registers dating back to 1856 and later registers up to 1920 but there is a gap from May 1911 - May 1919 (Ref: SO/PUO/2/1/1-45)."

So ...  that wasn't very helpful ... 

Milly

[cocksie]

Thanks for the information.  I'm beginning to think that it might be best to reach out to living descendants for answers.
When I attempted to get Workhouse Records, I was told that there was no record of any of these people being in the Workhouses.  Perhaps I should try again and this time, forward a copy of the Birth Certificate ...

I think definitely try again.  I have had a squiz at the records they hold.  This time you have more information so worth another shot.  Perhaps ask for reasonably narrow field of search (ie from birth of Mary Ann to just after 1901 census when it looks like they were there)
Admissions 1895-1902
Births 1895-1902
Vaccination records 1895-1902
Under surname Hall and Fisher, Christian names Harriet, Mary Ann, Alice
And, yes, send copy of birth reg plus maybe copy of 1901 census entry

Nothing to lose by trying again!
Cocksie

[cocksie]

Another possible source for specific Basford workhouse records relevant to the era we are looking at:

The University of Nottingham, King's Meadow Campus, Lenton Lane, Nottingham NG7 2NR. Registers of the workhouse infirmary including: Admissions and Discharge Registers (1895-1950); Registers of persons of unsound mind (1914-1947); Registers of sick, maternity and mental patients; Registers of births (1871-1947); Registers of deaths (1871-1948); Delivery ward register (1916-1942).

Carole, I still think the Baptism register for Mary Ann is worth chasing up, it will have witnesses and perhaps a clue.  Have you contacted the Ilkeston history group?
http://www.ilkestonhistory.org.uk/history/familyhistory/fhintroduction.htm
I reckon that if you explain some lovely person there could well go out of their way to have a good look up of all the resources they have.  You could email the links to this thread (and the previous one).
Worth a possible email?
Cocksie