Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford

[MonicaL]

In looking at the dates, my notes show James Hall b. 1876; father William b. 1854, therefore, the birth-dates for the William who married Alice Crooke, doesn't fit. 

Just as a by and by comment...where have the dates for father William's birth of c. 1854 come from?!

[heywood]

I have also checked that family tree (mentioned on this thread and the old one) against records and documents. Yes George and Harriet fisher did have an elder daughter Mary Ann in ilkeston. And yes a Mary Ann fisher did marry an Arthur Hall (whether the 2 Mary Ann fishers are one and the same is not 100% but seems highly likely)  I cannot substantiate that she ever married another hall brother as yet (and cannot work out when she had the time to do so).

Hurry up certs!

Just to say it was Mary Jane Fisher (father Isaac) who married Samuel Hall. There is then a marriage for Mary Jane Hall to Arthur Hall.
There is so much information (and red herrings) in the threads, that it does become quite confusing. 

Similarly, re the William Hall born 1854, there is nothing yet known of James Hall's father - other than his name.

heywood

[CarolRR]

Good morning chatters!  So ...  the day starts with a second reply from the Archives people (grrrr). 

"Reference: RB/70/3/13-1174/Reid
Please Ask For: Searchroom

Dear Mrs Reid,

Thank you for your email of 20 May 2013.
 
We hold the following records for the Basford Workhouse that could be searched for references to the Fisher family.
 
Reference:
 
SO/PUB/1/45/1 List of children maintained in the workhouse, 20th cent.
 
To pursue this line of enquiry further you may consider using our Research Service or employing a local Record Agent (independent researcher). Please see the following webpage for further details:  http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/learning/history/archives/enquiryresearchservices/.
 
Nottinghamshire Archives does not hold any admission and discharge registers for the Basford workhouse from the 20th century.
 
The Nottingham University Department of Manuscripts and Special Collections holds an admission and discharge register for the workhouse infirmary, 1895 - 1950, and can be contacted at the address below:
"

How frustrating ... 

Is there any way to clarify the following:
In the 1881 census, 11 Charlotte St., Ilkeston, Harriet Fisher, 49, shows as b. Cotmanhay, Derbyshire.
In the 1851 census, South Street, Ilkeston, Harriet Orme, 19, shows as b. Ilkeston

Also, assuming that this Harriet (b. c 1832) is 'my' Harriet's mother, it appears she may also have died at a (relatively) young age - there seems to be a pattern here.  Would it be possible to find the older Harriet's death information?  She appears in the 1881 census but not in 1891.

Thank you!

[iluleah]

http://www.ilkestonhistory.org.uk/history/familyhistory/fhintroduction.htm
Another avenue to look into if you haven't already check out 'PROJECTS' certainly your story would be of great interest

....and for Basford http://www.nottshistory.org.uk/articles/mellorsarticles/basford1.htm

You are aware I am sure that you are working on the border of two countries Ilkeston is Derbyshire, Basford is Nottinghamshire.... I still suggest you make contact with Ilkeston History Society who DOES have members who are local and I have no doubt will help you directly.

I have read what you say about living 'family' etc  however once you post on the web it is no longer  personal  and no different to asking directly to the people who will help and are living in the area and the public documents you are looking at viewing ( or attempting to) are open for all and everyone to see

[iluleah]

Deaths Dec 1890   Fisher    Harriet    58yrs    Basford    7b   90

[janan]

Cotmanhay is a village about a mile or so north of Ilkeston and now joined to it - so the two places of birth for Harriet senior are not necessarily a problem. It would however be worth checking that Harriet nee Orme didn't die and then George remarry another Harriet.

Jan

[gpixie]

Hi, there is an entry in the 1861 Census for a George Fisher and Harriett Fisher stating Harriett was born in Ilkeston, Derbyshire. On that Census they have a daughter Mary A aged 5 months.

[gpixie]

Also in the 1871 Census record Harriet Fisher is listed as born in Ilkeston, Derbyshire but the parish she, George and Mary Ann were living in is Cotmanhay and Shipley.

[janan]

I can't see a death for Harriett Fisher senior between 1871 and 1881 or a suitable remarriage for George to another Harriet, so I think it is the same lady in 1881.

Jan