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Offline CarolRR

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 19 May 13 17:34 BST (UK) »
Susan, lol, thanks for that - how interesting.  I guess that I shouldn't have dismissed all those 'Harry Potter' pages on google.  ;) 
Is there any census information on this man and his family?  I know there is nothing concrete connecting us, but I'm curious ...  also, if I were to grow a moustache (lol) I would probably look exactly like him!  Seriously!  lol

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 19 May 13 18:29 BST (UK) »
1911 census information removed

1901
Living in Cheltenham, Gloucester

Harry Potter    46   Surgeon
Frances Potter    43
Edith C Potter    18
Winifred E Potter    17
Olive M Potter    15
Samuel L Potter    11
Eva Potter    9
Minnie E Roberts    10  -  Servant

1891

Living in Ilkeston

Harry Potter    36   -  General Practitioner (Registered)
Frances Potter    32
Edith C Potter    8
Winifred E Potter    7
Clare M Potter    6
Samuel L Potter    1
William H Date    25  -  GP
Marie A Packham    30  -  Governess
Sarah J Coulon    26  -  Servant
Ellen Fraser    17
Lily Negus    17

1881

Hard to find - maybe on Honeymoon with Frances

1871

At home with widowed mother, Ann, in Ilkeston

Ann Potter    42  -  Widowed -  Colliery Proprietor and Farmery - born Stapleford, Nottingham
Annie C Potter    20
Samuel S Potter    18
Harry Potter    16
Florence E Potter    14

Oh, and no growing a moustache to match Harry !!!

Susan


   
Bedfordshire:     Church, Brooks
Essex (Great Bardfield):   Woolard
Hertfordshire:  Day, Johnson
Kent:   Church, Bristow, Day, Pharo, Oliver, Green
London:   Brinsley, Gillbe, Dawson, Gash
Northampton:   Pharo, Ilett
Suffolk:   Day, Munnings
Yorkshire:  Oliver, Hall, Richardson

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 19 May 13 20:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you Susan - so the mother, Ann, and family, were also from Ilkeston ...  how about this ...  somewhere I saw that a Susan Ellen Hall, b. 1845 (sister to James?) married a Daniel Potter, b. 1834.  I can't help but wonder, and this is pure speculation, whether this is somehow connected (but I'm not losing sleep over it)  ;)   Could Daniel Potter perhaps be related to the Ann, shown above?  This 'could' explain why I am matching with Fisher's, Hall's and Potter's.  Again, it's purely speculation ...

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 19 May 13 21:39 BST (UK) »
oops  keep forgetting about 1911 census data. Sorry.

Cannot find any marriage for Susan Ellen and Daniel..  I probably do not have good enough resources.

Bedfordshire:     Church, Brooks
Essex (Great Bardfield):   Woolard
Hertfordshire:  Day, Johnson
Kent:   Church, Bristow, Day, Pharo, Oliver, Green
London:   Brinsley, Gillbe, Dawson, Gash
Northampton:   Pharo, Ilett
Suffolk:   Day, Munnings
Yorkshire:  Oliver, Hall, Richardson


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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 19 May 13 21:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Carol,
Been browsing and found something which might interest you....or could be a complete red herring.
Being inspired by the Harry Potter of the 1891 Census etc I found a family of a William Potter on the same Census at Basford Nottinghshire all of whom were born Ilkeston.
William   age 40
Elizabeth age  38
Tom       age   18
James H  age 16
Mary E age 11
Samuel age 9
Enock  age 6
Harris age 3.
Looked for births on www.freebmd's and hit a blank but interestingly there is a birth of an Enoch HALL registered at Basford in 1885. Can't find an Enoch Hall on 1891 Census but he turns up at Ilkeston on the 1901 Census which I don't have full access to (just Family Search)

Almost reluctant to post this as I don't want to be leading you off the path. But because there is a James of around the right age and because I found the birth of a Mary Ellen Hall (yeah I know ...common name) registered at Basford in 1880, again matching the above Mary E Potter I decided to stick this on. Perhaps other Rootschatters with more resources and with better access to English records than myself could have a look see what they make of this family ;D.

Sorry if it's nothing,
Looby

Why the family would be alternating between names of Potter and Hall I don't know??

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 19 May 13 22:05 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have been following this sad thread and the remarkable work done by RootsChatters and wondered if the following on the 1861 census may be relevant

RG9/2496/82/pages 18-19 Kingsmead, Derbyshire

Charles Potter     Head   52   Bootmaker   b. Ashbourne
Mary          Wife   52   Nurse      b. Hanigan Berkshie
Eliza           Dau   24   Dessmaker   b. Ashbourne
Emma           Dau      20   Silkwinder      “
Mary           Dau      15         “         “
Robert           Son    12        Scholar      “
William Hall               S.i.l    26   Gas fitter   b. London
Louisa Hall                Dau    23         b. Ashbourne
Louisa Hall       G.Dau  8mths      b. Derbyshire

Marriage  Dec. Q 1859 Derby ref. 7b 765

William Edwin Hall = Louisa Potter

Again this this probably another red herring.

Good luck in your search.

Sue

 

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 19 May 13 22:09 BST (UK) »
Is it Enoch or Enock.

Looby, what date is the census you found with Enock age 6.

The Enoc(h) on 1901 is 17, but mum is Emma,
will keep looking
Bedfordshire:     Church, Brooks
Essex (Great Bardfield):   Woolard
Hertfordshire:  Day, Johnson
Kent:   Church, Bristow, Day, Pharo, Oliver, Green
London:   Brinsley, Gillbe, Dawson, Gash
Northampton:   Pharo, Ilett
Suffolk:   Day, Munnings
Yorkshire:  Oliver, Hall, Richardson

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 19 May 13 22:11 BST (UK) »
Susan, thanks.  What's the story with the 1911 census?  It shows that '1911 census data removed'.  ??
Looby - thanks!  I find this very, very interesting.  There is definitely a connection between the two families, but I'm not seeing it just yet.  For information purposes  ;)  there is a "Mary Potter" in my match list, who I have not contacted. 
In the family tree of one of my overall closest matches (Hilda Boomer) she has an "Abbie May Potter" daughter of "Holder White Potter" and "Sarah A. Codding".  Parents of "Holder" are Joshua Potter and Deborah N. White. 
I don't mean to go on about the Potter's when I'm really focussing on the Hall's and Fisher's, it's just that there has to be something I'm missing somewhere - there are just too many of them ...
Do you see an Abbie May Potter in your records?

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 19 May 13 22:16 BST (UK) »
Carol,
I stupidly keep forgetting we cannot post 1911 census data.

Bedfordshire:     Church, Brooks
Essex (Great Bardfield):   Woolard
Hertfordshire:  Day, Johnson
Kent:   Church, Bristow, Day, Pharo, Oliver, Green
London:   Brinsley, Gillbe, Dawson, Gash
Northampton:   Pharo, Ilett
Suffolk:   Day, Munnings
Yorkshire:  Oliver, Hall, Richardson