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Any Winter people here?
« on: Thursday 16 May 13 23:57 BST (UK) »
My maternal grandfather .... Andrew Winter was Romany Gypsy.

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Re: Any Winter people here?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 May 13 23:59 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Can you give some more info about Andrew to enable readers to make a connection

When and where was he born

Who were his parents

Who did he marry
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 May 13 00:04 BST (UK) »
Hi! and thanks for the welcome!
Andrew Winter
     Birth 07 Sept 1879 in Lancaster, Warwickshire, England
    Death 30 Nov 1940 in 40 Mitcham Road Croydon, Surrey, England
Married Grace Mary Longbottom
     Birth 07 Aug 1885 in Aldershot, Hampshire, England
    Death 02 Feb 1967 in Mayday Hospital Croydon
Andrew's parents were
William Winter & Ann Cunningham

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 May 13 22:36 BST (UK) »
Hi

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Birth 07 Sept 1879 in Lancaster, Warwickshire, England


Just a small correction - his birth was registered in Warrington Lancashire - not Warwickshire but the 1881 census gives his birthplace as Ashton under Lyne

Are you looking for living relatives or some help in tracing his ancestry
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 May 13 23:10 BST (UK) »
Thank you Carole.
I had noticed that before, but on the 1891 census then gives his birth place as Warrington, Lancashire. OK! I see the registration district is Warrington, from the BMD. Thank you again!
I have a family tree on Ancestry and it was only a few months ago that I actually found out my grandfather was Romany. This was shared with me from a distant cousin thru emails at Ancestry. Her 3rd great grandfather (Jacob Winter) and my 2nd great grandfather (Andrew Winter...William Winter's father) were brothers. The difference in the generation of relation to grandfathers, is because I'm quite a bit older than she. I had no idea about my ancestry until this cousin shared with me. Evidently was something my mother's family tried to hide. Including my own mom. Saddens my heart when people live their entire lives in shame.
I've done quite a bit of research on my own at Ancestry, but always helps when others, like yourself...can point out what I miss, like the registration district. Please understand, I'm still a bit of a novice at this and doing my research without any family stories told to me or to gain clues from. Plus I've lived 64 yrs in America and only 2 years of my life in England.
Basically hoping to connect with my Winter & Cunningham families. So that my own children and grandchildren will know of their full heritage, rather than just the bits I had previous to this very revealing news I recently received, that of my grandfather being Romany. Sure has answered many a question for me.
Christine in Chicago

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 May 13 23:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Christine

I wonder if it may be best to move your post to the Surname Interests board.  Rootschat is linked into Google so if anybody uses it to search for those names - they will get a "hit" with this post.

Also - members researching those names will check that board

What do you think?
 
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 May 13 13:08 BST (UK) »
Good Morning Carole,

I think I'll leave my post here...as my Winter people are Romany. I also have a couple posts elsewhere on the 'Travelling People' forum about my Cunningham people. Got some good advice there as well.

Christine in Chicago

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 May 13 16:29 BST (UK) »
Hi

No problem - good luck with the search - hope you make some connections
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Re: Any Winter people here?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 May 13 10:06 BST (UK) »
Hi i am a Winter, i think we are from the same line, i had my Dna done and from what myself and others with more knowledge than myself we are of Asian Origin into Eastern Europe through the Med traveled through Germany before possibly arriving in Scotland. don't know if this helps recent ancestry lol but its our genetic history.