Wow, thanks everyone for helping me, you're a great bunch of 'research buddy's'!
I have found the records of what you have all been telling me, some I already had, some not, I've been sifting through everything all morning, printed off lots of records, but oh boy, am I confused or what!! I don't know whether I'm coming or going with it all to be honest
All this changing of names is really doin' my head in!!! would someone named John really have started calling himself Edwin?
or indeed Edward!! I can't seem to find out what the 'E' in 'John E' really stands for, could be either, he's Edwin and Edward on different records.
It would seem though that I have for certain been going down the wrong line.
On the 1881 census I have 'John E Darling' B. 1851 Scarborough, Stone Mason, living in Stott Place, Bradford' I came to that from this starting point....
'Herbert Darling' married 'Agnes Ellis' in Chesterfield 1911, on the record at 'freereg.org' it shows that his father is 'John', a stone mason, and from the 1911 census I see that Herbert was born in Bradford, so I went from there and found an 1881 census in Bradford with both Herbert and John, I can find no other with these names so assume that this is them.
On the 1891 census, Herbert and his brother George are in the orphanage (birth dates pretty much match so assume its them) But, I cannot find anymore records for their father 'John E' after the 1881 census, not even a death, his wife Harriet, died in 1887, I assumed that the boys were then put in the orphanage.
From there I thought that John went on to marry 'Eliza Glaves' but this is where I went wrong I think, it must be another John unfortunatly.
I have an A4 folder stuffed full of stuff about that line, can barely shut the flippin' thing!!! so you can imagine how dissapointed I am, gutted, just about covers it! we have even just come back from holiday in Scarborough and combined it with looking around the graves, got pics and info, the lot, all wasted now of course, the wrong bunch!!
To get back onto what I was saying (sorry for the grumble
) do you think that I should send for a birth cert of Herbert, that will give me his mums name won't it? (Brayshaw or otherwise)
My only worry is, am I sending for the right Herbert! his birth date changes like the wind, I know they can vary, on birth record he's 1880, baptism he's 1880, (father as Edward though) marriage works out at 1884, 1881 census he's 1881. 1891 he's 1881, 1901 he's 1881, 1911 he's 1884, so in your expert opinion do you all reckon its the same guy?
Sending for his marriage cert won't give me anymore than I already know will it? it's not going to tell me anymore about his parents is it? so that one would be a waste of money I'm thinking.
Do you know if and where I could get records of the orphanage? they should, I suppose, tell me why they were put in there, it is frustrating though not being able to find out what happend to their father, not even a death record, I mean, can I really assume that he is the 'Edwin' that we all keep coming up with?
Well anyway folks, I'm deeply grateful to you all for taking time out of your own research to help me, you're all very kind, I'm always more than happy for any snippet that anyone can come up with.
Jacrista
PS. Rosie99 ...Posted this message before seeing your addition this afternoon, thank you so much for putting that list all together.
