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Re: Grandmother stolen at 2 years of age (1897). Help?
« Reply #180 on: Friday 17 May 13 13:22 BST (UK) »
Good morning, it's been a busy night!  ;)  Thank you Giblet for your technical help, as well as for everything else that you have done to help me!  To all the 'chatters' who have posted wishes, I take each and every one of them to heart, so thank you, sincerely, for your kindness.
Now ...  I sent an email last night to Nottingham Archives, providing them with the names of my newly found relatives, where they were located, and enquired about receiving information about them.  I will let you know when I receive a response.
As per the Ancestry 'tree', for now, I think it's a useful tool to aid in all of this, but I don't really want to reach out to anyone just yet.  Once I have the certificates in hand, and hopefully some information from Archives, the path will be much clearer ...  I really do not want to get ahead of myself with this.  I have waited many years to arrive at where I find myself right now, and I find myself missing my Mom as if I had just lost her (she passed in 2007) so this might appear as having to take 'baby steps' for you amazing researchers, and I am sorry if it makes things more difficult, but it's important to me that we back up what we know and then proceed based on what we know.  This is a close relationship, it is my grandmother, and emotions will also be high with family members - I have to get this right.  I have one Uncle left, he was married to my Mom's little sister, my grandmother's youngest child, who passed in 2003, and before sitting down with him, I have to have all of my ducks lined up properly.
Hopefully the certificates are on their way!  I can't wait to share that information with all of you!
p.s.  re: Harriet not changing her name - I'm wondering if she may have been refused access to the Workhouse if she had reported being married with a living husband (if you can call him that).
p.p.s.  re: "it" - When I first came upon this terminology, I was horrified.  I had to remind myself of the era in which all of this played out - this was perfectly normal and acceptable language at that time in history and therefore, I am able to 'let it slide'.

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Re: Grandmother stolen at 2 years of age (1897). Help?
« Reply #181 on: Friday 17 May 13 13:33 BST (UK) »
Afternoon from here Carol.

I understand fully you wish everything to be correct.

I wonder if you could just confirm for me about the January 12th 1898 mention.

As the petty sessions were on the 15th January I wondered if you could
say what and where is the mention of the 12th.

Timeline is on Page 13.

Take it slowly.

Sandy
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Re: Grandmother stolen at 2 years of age (1897). Help?
« Reply #182 on: Friday 17 May 13 13:34 BST (UK) »
Your grandmother is beautiful Carol, thank you for sharing a picture of her with us.

Hopefully it won't take to long to get the certificates from England.

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: Grandmother stolen at 2 years of age (1897). Help?
« Reply #183 on: Friday 17 May 13 13:41 BST (UK) »
I have one Uncle left, he was married to my Mom's little sister, my grandmother's youngest child, who passed in 2003, and before sitting down with him, I have to have all of my ducks lined up properly.

Have you considered printing out this thread, and letting family read it in their own time?

I just really feel you need to share this with someone; a shoulder to cry on? :-*
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: Grandmother stolen at 2 years of age (1897). Help?
« Reply #184 on: Friday 17 May 13 13:49 BST (UK) »
seahall - good afternoon.  My reference to the Jan. 12th date came from the (typed) "admitting papers" portion of the Barnardo's file.  It states that "on 12th January last the case against him was heard at Loughboro' ...".  A typo perhaps?

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Re: Grandmother stolen at 2 years of age (1897). Help?
« Reply #185 on: Friday 17 May 13 13:53 BST (UK) »
Carol,

This is your thread and your family, so we must all do as you wish and at your pace. Sometimes we are all so keen to help that we can get a bit carried away and impatient.  :)

I'm sure we would all appreciate updates on your progress whenever you feel happy to share.

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Re: Grandmother stolen at 2 years of age (1897). Help?
« Reply #186 on: Friday 17 May 13 14:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your concerns, but I'm fine.  I've had a few good cries and I'll have more, but I'm ok - it's to be expected. 
I am also perfectly fine with the manner in which this is playing out with everyone here.  I, too, am eager to sort out the whole thing, but this is not 'old' history, it's recent, and I don't want to hurt anyone in the process (there's been enough of that in the past), so I feel the need to tread gently.  If anyone outside the circle is contacted, they may want more than I can give, at this particular point in time.  As far as 'research' goes, I hope this will continue to unfold.  I hope that I haven't offended anyone, as that was not my intent.  I love all of you, this is amazing.

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Re: Grandmother stolen at 2 years of age (1897). Help?
« Reply #187 on: Friday 17 May 13 16:01 BST (UK) »
I have just caught up with this very sad and rivieting story. I am amazed at the amount of information that has been identified so far.  I may need to re-read parts as there is so much information that has come to pass. Well done to all.

I have a query (based on post #163) Is anyone following up the Owens family? I was just thinking about how stories are handed down in families and wondering if the foster mother's family might know anything if there are still living relatives?

Best wishes to Carol and many thanks for sharing the lovely picture of your Grandmother.

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Re: Grandmother stolen at 2 years of age (1897). Help?
« Reply #188 on: Friday 17 May 13 16:21 BST (UK) »
Hi california dreamin, thank you for your wishes, and comments/suggestions.  This is such an amazing group ...  I feel that they have found my grandmother's identity, which is what I was looking for, and the certificates will likely confirm these findings.  In the process, I have learned that my grandmother had siblings and finding them has now become my focus.  The past seems to be uncovered and I am eager to discover whether there are living descendants from Harriet's other children. 
I appreciate your suggestion pertaining to the Owens family.  While I am grateful to the Owens family, in the grand scheme, I don't feel that there is much that they can add to the search for ancestral information.   At that point in my grandmother's life, what they knew of her was what Barnardo's would have provided, and I already have the personal information from them.
I am going to scout out my DNA matches profiles for some "Fisher's" ...  I'll keep you posted.