Grandmother stolen at 2 years of age (1897). Help?

[Ruskie]

Am in process of trawling newspapers later to see if there is any further mention of the case etc.

This was such a serious case it makes you wonder if he committed other offences.

[MargP]

Hi

What a heart rendering story, and every one involved in this, deserves a medal, I am not sure how far Carol want's to go on this, but I sure the Media would be interested in this, you never know there maybe someone out there, that may have some handed down information that could help.

So if there is anyone on Roots that is involved in the Media your thought's on this

Margp

[CarolRR]

Giblet - I can't thank you enough for all that you have done, and continue to do.  You have all touched my heart.  The article is very difficult, I try to detach, emotionally, while reading it but find that I don't do a very good job of it, so I have to read it over and over for the actual details to sink in.  It pains my heart.  I will try and get a copy of the article from Leicester.  Giblet, again, I don't have the words to express my gratitude to you - thank you, sincerely.
For some reason, I had computer problems last night - pages wouldn't load, wouldn't send, etc., so I gave up, frustrated beyond belief, and went to bed ...  and slept!
I have decided to put the DNA "Fisher" link on the back burner as I realize that I need more recent ancestry info.  My match with this "Fisher" lady could be many generations back, as her Hall's, Potter's, and Fisher's (there is a Harriet) were all born in the 1800s, in the US.  My wind swirls ...  So I am putting that aside for now, and focussing on what is in front of me (or almost).
Thank you 'chatters' for biting into this story to the extent that you have.  I look forward to the day that the specifics of this story won't feel so raw.
I found a Harriet Fisher, b. 1873, christened 6 Jul 1873 in Whatcote, Warwick.  I'll focus on finding her and hopefully her other children.
Thanks again to all!

[giblet]

Its a lot to take in Carol and your thread isnt going anywhere so take your time working your way through it all.

It's a story that has touched a lot of hearts!

[heywood]

So I am putting that aside for now, and focussing on what is in front of me (or almost).
Thank you 'chatters' for biting into this story to the extent that you have.  I look forward to the day that the specifics of this story won't feel so raw.
I found a Harriet Fisher, b. 1873, christened 6 Jul 1873 in Whatcote, Warwick.  I'll focus on finding her and hopefully her other children.
Thanks again to all!

Hi Carol,

I do feel for you and understand that it is something which I am sure is overwhelming at times.
I just want to clarify your search for Harriet, however.

We can't yet connect all these found people with your grandmother, I know, but going from the 'evidence' of the trial, there is something known.
James Hall married in Ilkeston not long before the trial. He was working locally so presumably/possibly married a local girl.

Just to reiterate:
Family Search has the marriage - James Hall to Harriet Fisher https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NN8H-4XG

There are other James Hall marriages in llkeston but not quite within the given time frame.

Harriet's father is named as George and her birthdate is given about 1874.

1881 census has a Harriet born 1874 Ilkeston with parents George and Harriet.

I would say she is a more likely candidate than the Warwickshire one but also it may be the wrong James Hall etc.

best wishes
heywood

[Ruskie]

I can't remember who posted the information earlier (sorry), but regarding the marriage of James Hall and Harriet Fisher, someone said Harriett's age was 22 yrs, and her father was George. Does the same record give James Hall's age and father's name?

[CarolRR]

Hugs, Giblet.
"Fisher" appears to be quite a common surname in the geographical area we are looking at, with some of them being very prominent.
If anyone has birth (registry) information for Alice Fisher, born 1899(?) in Basford and/or John Fisher, b. 1906 in Basford, I will order their birth certificates.
Thanks.

[Ruskie]

I can't remember who posted the information earlier (sorry), but regarding the marriage of James Hall and Harriet Fisher, someone said Harriett's age was 22 yrs, and her father was George. Does the same record give James Hall's age and father's name?

Ok forget that. I see from the link posted by heywood, that he is 20 and his father is William. 

[CarolRR]

Heywood, thanks for posting the link for the marriage registration, I hadn't seen it so am happy to have a copy of it - thank you.
I think it's important to remember that James Hall was shown as having 'no fixed address' and was known to be a beggar who tramped the area from Derby to Leicester to Northampton.