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Re: Michael Mellon b c 1849-1855 Glasgow or Ireland (diff census)
« Reply #18 on: Monday 13 May 13 14:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Monica,

I did search for a birth Dundee as was on the census Carole mentioned but couldn't find one so that looks to be an enumerator error (re. the spelling).

This birth is Patrick Mellin b 13 Feb 1886 at Macalpen's? Buildings, Stonefield, Blantyre, mother Mary Jane Butten/Batton? wed 5th Feb 1872 Airdrie.

However, I think I have struck gold now!!!!  ;D

My latest find is:
 http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8860&iid=30859_A008105-00335&fn=James&ln=Mellow&st=r&ssrc=&pid=36224970

1851 James & Hannah with kids John, James, Michael & Ann, he's a Cabinet Maker & Michael b Scotland but wait for it.........................surname Mellow!!!  ;D
The writer had a loop on the "n" which looks like "w"

Anne Marie

I'm like a kid in a sweetshop now  :)
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Michael Mellon b c 1849-1855 Glasgow or Ireland (diff census)
« Reply #19 on: Monday 13 May 13 14:17 BST (UK) »
Michael's age on this is 2 so b 1849 & that's the nearest I could get from any record as the rest varied bet. 1849 - 1855.

Will go back to SP now with a smaller date span and go for variants but if he wasn't baptised/christened I won't find him.

A. M.
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Michael Mellon b c 1849-1855 Glasgow or Ireland (diff census)
« Reply #20 on: Monday 13 May 13 14:57 BST (UK) »
That is great to have found Michael's family in 1851 in Lancashire.

The 1873 marriage for Michael to Mary Casey is the correct one. Michael's parents are showing as:
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Re: Michael Mellon b c 1849-1855 Glasgow or Ireland (diff census)
« Reply #21 on: Monday 13 May 13 15:11 BST (UK) »
From Michael's marriage to Mary Casey, the familes were RC?

...And from that, you will find Michael's birth & baptism in the Roman Catholic Registers on SP:

6 June 1848/13 July 1848, Michael Mellon to parents James Mellon and Hannah Toland at St Andrew's in Glasgow.

Monica
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Re: Michael Mellon b c 1849-1855 Glasgow or Ireland (diff census)
« Reply #22 on: Monday 13 May 13 16:45 BST (UK) »
There is this entry in 1877 in Ireland for a James, son, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG6V-5FW

Just in case this entry causes any confusion-
"65 Carrickhill" is not the father's birthplace- it is the residence of the father at the time of the birth (and 65 is the page number in the register). When a place is listed this way it usually means that the child was not born at home/where the father was living.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Michael Mellon b c 1849-1855 Glasgow or Ireland (diff census)
« Reply #23 on: Monday 13 May 13 17:26 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage record for James Melon (sic) and Hannah Toland in Donegal in 1845 on www.rootsireland.ie.  This is a pay per view website.  This marriage is taken from a religious parish, most likely a Catholic one and information given is usually name of bride and groom and names of witnesses.  Very rarely are the parents of the bride and groom named, but it may give you a location as to the townland / town they lived in when they got married.  It was usual for the bride to marry in her parish but it wasn't always the case.  I think the county' looks like Strabane too, which isn't a county, as you well know, but maybe the enumerator didn't know that.

I could not find any children for this couple on the above website, so they either emigrated soon after their marriage or not all the baptisms are online.

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Re: Michael Mellon b c 1849-1855 Glasgow or Ireland (diff census)
« Reply #24 on: Monday 13 May 13 17:36 BST (UK) »
Just adding link to the deciphering post thread for background www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,646780.0.html

Murney, that is a great potential find! Given the year, I am thinking that Hannah Toland was a second wife of James Mellon, specially looking at the ages of James and Hannah in the 1851 census in Lancashire linked above. If the marriage you found is 1847, the Michael b in Glasgow in 1848 likely the first child from this marriage. Dates and years that we have seen so far would all look to more or  less fit with that.

Monica

Added: Getting confused  ;) Marriage being cited was in 1845.
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Re: Michael Mellon b c 1849-1855 Glasgow or Ireland (diff census)
« Reply #25 on: Monday 13 May 13 17:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Murney,

Your a genius and I'm in awe - 1st marriage or 2nd won't matter for now. I've used that site before for several things and guess what, I got free credits for it from a promotion a while ago and think I may have some left?

I'm hungry in both contexts - for info. & food  :)

Regards & thanks,

Anne Marie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Michael Mellon b c 1849-1855 Glasgow or Ireland (diff census)
« Reply #26 on: Monday 13 May 13 17:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Anne Marie

I think the free credits just lets you see the index and not the actual marriage.  I can have a look for you tonight at the Library.  I believe that the parish they married in was in Urney which straddles parts of Co Donegal and Strabane, Co Tyrone which would answer your question as to where Hannah came from, but hopefully I can confirm that for you tomorrow. 

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Deirdre