Michael Mellon b c 1849-1855 Glasgow or Ireland (diff census)

[Rosinish]

Hi Carole & aghadowey,

No Patrick with spelling Millan closest was Peter - 1906.

Yes - Annie Jude (nee Mellon), was my grandmother. Her parents were Michael & his wife Jane Ann (d 30 Jun 1932) my ggrandmother.

I can't trace Michael other than what I have written here & that's it lock, stock & barrell? I think he maybe travelled around in his job but to where is the question? 

A. M.

[aghadowey]

Dundonald Cemetery-
Jane Ann Mellon, age 61, 30 Redcliffe Dr., died 30 June 1932
Frederick Jude, age 47, of Ballyoran Terrace Portadown, died 2 Aug.1947 Lurgan District Hospital
Annie R. Jude, age 47, of 5 Ballyoran Terrace Ballyoran Portadown, died 5 May 1948 Lurgan & Portadown District Hospital Lurgan Co Armagh

Michael doesn't seem to be buried either in the plot or Dundonald itself. Are you sure he was alive in 1931? (marriage certificates don't always indicate father is deceased).

Wonder about this death...
Michael Mellon, age 72 (born c1848), Oct./Dec.1920 Belfast registration district, volume 1 page 103

[Rosinish]

I have all that info. the forum gave me a while ago. The only reason I assumed him to be alive in 1931 was the fact that he wasn't declared deceased on Annie R's wed cert.

Thanks for that death info. though as it's a positive given the area & the age fits too..............well with the rough dates I have from census.

The 1861 gave James Mellon (Michael's dad) from Donegal & the mother Hannah from County Stratham/Heatham/Meatham??? Very hard to read but I've never found what it should read to date.

A. M.

[Rosinish]

This is where they were from. Donegal isn't spelled correctly either but I knew what it was meant to be. The other is a mystery.

A. M.

[CaroleW]

No Patrick with spelling Millan closest was Peter - 1906.

On the SP Stautory Births index - I input as follows:

Surname = Millan
Surname Options = Exact surnames only
Forename = Patrick
Surname Options = Exact forenames only
Sex = male
Year range = 1886 - 1886
County/City/Minor Records = all records
District = All districts

One match showed so I don't know why you are unable to find it

[Rosinish]

Just checked to see what was what. Last search I done must have been Angus area and I must have forgot to switch area off. Will go for it now.

Cheers,

A. M.

[Rosinish]

Hi Carole,

This Patrick has father Michael but occ. a Miner so I think this is may be a no sadly? Reason being, his profession was a French Polisher but I'm not discounting it completely as anything is possible given the area Blantyre & mining being prolific, I have an open mind.

I have had a look at the 1891 census yet again and as he was Head & Widower, he would have been the one giving the info. to the enumerator as to where born etc. and this is the one which I was prone to go by along with the 1861 with who I think are his parents & both of them say Scotland - 1861 specifies Glasgow so my next thing yet again back to ancestry to trawl all variants & see what I can find with Mellin, Mellan, Mallon, Mallen etc. etc. & hope that the mother's name "Hannah/Sarah/Una" helps, bearing in mind the parents were Irish & gaelic so variants for Hannah.
Michaels siblings Ann c1850 & Catherine c1853 both Manchester so yet again try and pinpoint them in 1851.

I was hoping though that someone would recognise the names but alas...................

Thanks for help though, much appreciated.

A. M.

P.S. Will post on other forum copy of census area for someone to decipher it which would be a help as I may be able to pick up a marriage eventually.

[MonicaL]

This Patrick has father Michael but occ. a Miner so I think this is may be a no sadly?

Hi A.M.

From the birth cert you viewed, what was the name of the mother showing on the cert? What were the marriage details showing on the cert?

Monica 

[MonicaL]

There is a Scottish 1881 entry for a Michael Millan aged 3 b Ireland and John Millan aged 9mths b Dundee who are  both shown as boarders in Angus with a Mary Casey

Did you follow through on this suggestion by Carole....seems to fit well with what you are looking for. Would be worth checking Mary Casey's marital status on this 1881 census...

There is a marriage between a Michael Mellon and a Mary Casey in 1873 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTVD-L9D  Looking at this on SP would let you confirm Michael's father.

The fact that Mary Casey showed under her maiden name on the 1881 census is not unusual in Scotland. Married women never by law 'lost' their maiden name. This is the reason the married women's maiden name is often noted (also on gravestones for example).

Looks like, I think, the couple travelled back and forth.

There is this entry in 1877 in Ireland for a James, son, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG6V-5FW

Michael Jnr. also looks to also be Irish born rather than Scottish - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPT6-M5V

After their birth, the family (without Michael Snr.) show back in Dundee for the 1881 census from what Carole found earlier.

Re deaths, can't easily see one that would fit for Mary Casey Mellon in Scotland (you can search with both surnames on SP which helps a lot) but saw this in the first quarter of 1891 in reg district, Newcastle upon Tyne, the death of a Mary Mellon aged 34, b. 1858 (vol. 10b, pg. 85).

Monica