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Re: Name the church
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 29 August 13 13:14 BST (UK) »

Below is the final list of record offices and local history libraries that are authorised to share my database and a list of those which are not. I hope there is no confusion over the constantly changing details but some of the conditions of deposit have been found to be unacceptable.

These are the conditions of deposit, as I understand them, although human nature dictates that there will be regional variations. The rules listed here are all approved by me. The aim is to encourage genuine research and discourage any attempt to gather the whole database in one place.

The authorised record offices will assist people who visit them. As author I am entitled to limit the amount of photocopying to zero but I am allowing photocopies of pages to be made, under the supervision of the duty archivist, for the purpose of helping the researcher avoid transcription errors and to make efficient use of time.

The record office is not permitted to give, sell, lend or copy the complete database to anybody, including other record offices, which means that those depositories that are not participating should not hold a copy even though several of them have been in possession of one at some stage.

The database must not be indexed, turned into digitised images, or placed online except to notify the public of its existence and location. The record office administers, protects and preserves it for the benefit of its customers, subject to the relevant copyright legislation. The record office is entitled to make back-up copies of the database but only for the purpose of preserving its contents. Recent legislation has determined that the CD-ROM must be used on one particular computer under supervision. USB sticks are not permitted.

The database must not be transferred by any form of post. This rules out some people, especially those who live outside of the U.K., although there is a reason for it which is that I am moving overseas early next year where the same material will be divided into 9 equal parts, each just over 130 pages in length, which will be sold as printed books. The division is alphabetical and the titles will be:

1 of 9 Abbott to Boswell
2 of 9 Botton to Cooper
3 of 9 Coopling to Gray
4 of 9 Grayson to Keene
5 of 9 Keet to Loveridge
6 of 9 Lovett to Ponto
7 of 9 Poole to Smith (baptisms to Lancashire)
8 of 9 Smith (baptisms Leicestershire) to Swainson
9 of 9 Swales to Zachary

Since I went on my final trip after distributing the six regional databases they are all now slightly out of date although I cannot say that just a few changes have been made because I tend to gather a considerable amount of information. The work contains factual entries while additional remarks are placed within square brackets. All the entries are either gipsylike or known to be connected to travelling people. There are numerous instances of itinerants who may not have been gipsies but who had similar occupations.

This is the final list of 23 authorised record offices and local history libraries:

Eastern England & East Midlands Gipsy Index (EGI)
Bedford
Cambridge
Huntingdon
Matlock
Wigston Magna

Greater London Gipsy Index (GLGI)
Bexley Library
Bromley Library

Northern England Gipsy Index (NGI)
Doncaster
Durham
Northallerton
Newcastle

South East England Gipsy Index (SEGI)
Bexley Library
Bromley Library
Canterbury
Strood

South Central & South West Gipsy Index (SWGI)
Chippenham
Norton Fitzwarren
Oxford
Winchester *

Wales & West England Gipsy Index (WGI)
Aberystwyth (NLW)
Gloucester
Hawarden
Leckwith
Shropshire
Stafford

The following record offices and local history libraries will not be participating:

Aylesbury
Beverley
Birmingham
Bristol
Carlisle
Chester
Chichester
Dorchester
Hereford
Hertford
Heslington
Ilford
Kendal
Liverpool
London Metropolitan Archives
Maidstone
Reading
Sheffield
Sowton
Truro
Walthamstow
Woking
Woodhorn
Worcester

One record office, Warwick, is still being decided.

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Re: Name the church
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 04 September 13 12:37 BST (UK) »
Warwickshire Record Office is now confirmed as one of the participants.

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Re: Name the church
« Reply #29 on: Monday 09 September 13 13:10 BST (UK) »
So that I do not have to answer the same questions repeatedly I am responding to issues raised in PMs.

Somerset is one of the Record Offices having the South West database. Norton Fitzwarren is a short bus journey from Taunton.

In organising the database for public use each of the selected record offices has had a chance to show that they are going to give a fair deal to everybody. Ultimately it is my decision to deposit and I have chosen those which I regard as most agreeable. It would not be appropriate to make the details public.

I have seen no prejudice on account of the subject-matter. On the contrary, the vast majority of record offices (including those that have been rejected for one reason or another) have been delighted at the possibility of having the database for their region. It is pure coincidence that large parts of the country are not served.

If you study this thread, especially at the start, it does suggest that lobbying the record office could get results although that likelihood may be receding because record offices tend to respond to enquiries from you rather than to request free copies on their own initiative.

Of course, I could hand a copy of the database to anybody that asks but I did not receive enough enquiries when I was prepared to do that and it is not something that can be given to just a few people because they could become the millionaires instead of me.

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Re: Name the church
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 01 April 14 12:38 BST (UK) »
The A to Z of Gipsy Genealogies (1,190 pages, approx 50,000 entries) a database on CD-ROM compiled by Terence Lee of Sedbergh, Cumbria.

Last year I deposited the regional divisions of my database (GLGI, EGI, NGI, SEGI, SWGI & WGI) at about 20 selected Record Offices. I have, since then, updated the full ‘unexpurgated’ edition which is 1,190 pages in length (too heavy to carry if printed) comprising mostly baptisms, marriages and burials for gipsies and travellers.

The difference is that the full version covers all of England and Wales and a little of Scotland. It means that you only have to visit one of the Record Offices listed below to see records of gipsies and travellers for the whole country.

The following Record Offices and libraries have been (or are about to be) sent the full and final version which can be viewed by anyone free of charge. It is just a matter of contacting the chosen Record Office to make an appointment (assuming appointments are needed). All Record Offices have their own set of rules which are designed to help visitors do research. In this case you simply ask if they have Terence Lee’s gipsy database, the full version

The first four are libraries. the remainder are Record Offices.

Aberystwyth (National Library of Wales)
Bexley Library (KT.BX)
British Library (processing time means it will not be immediately available here)
Bromley Library (KT.BRO)
Cambridge (CAM)
Canterbury (E.KT)
Chippenham (WIL)
Doncaster (YKS.DON)
Durham (DUR)
Gloucester (GLO)
Huntingdon (HUN)
Kendal (WML)
Leckwith (GLM)
Matlock (DBY)
Nothallerton (YKS.NLN)
Reading (BRK)
Shrewsbury (SHR)
Stafford (STF)
Wigston Magna (LEI)
Winchester (HAM)



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Re: Name the church
« Reply #31 on: Monday 14 April 14 11:20 BST (UK) »
Due to serious ill health this will be my last posting on Rootschat.

The following Record offices and library have so far acknowledged receipt of the CD-ROM described above. Others may do so later although I will be unable to notify anybody.

Bromley Library (KT.BRO)
Cambridge (CAM)
Chippenham (WIL)
Reading (BRK)
Shrewsbury (SHR)
Wigston Magna (LEI)

It would be a good idea to check, in advance of a visit, to ensure that it is available.

TL