Richard Reddish b 1786 Castle Bytham - missing marriage data to an Elizabeth .

[BmthbelleNZ]

Hi there from New Zealand.

I have become stuck trying to find the marriage of Richard Reddish (born 1686 Castle Bytham) to an Elizabeth - maiden name unknown .

I can 'see' their children all born Castle Bytham  via Family Search C03500-1 which tells me their Mother's name but no maiden name.

Firstborn is also an Elizabeth born 1717 at Castle Bytham.

One of my big confusions with this missing marriage record is that everywhere over the 'net with public on-line family trees and databases, the thought is that it was an Elizabeth Polhill b 1686.  Thing is , I can't find anything for this from where I sit here in New Zealand.

I can also see that there is a jump back on many of the trees and databases from Elizabeth Polhill to Thomas Polhill who married Elizabeth Ireton who was the daughter of Bridget Cromwell - daughter of Oliver Cromwell.  That in itself would be exciting if it could be proven but I can't even find a baptism for an Elizabeth Polhill born c 1686 which would be 3 yrs after Thomas Polhill died.

What I can also 'see' is a Richard Raddish married an Elizabeth Crumwell 1716 per Notts Archdeanery Marriage licence - Boyds 1st misc series.

I'm flummoxed & don't want to make assumptions about this marriage and possible lineage.

Any help & thoughts gratefully received.

[ray b]

hi there
castle bytham can be found on a site called lincs to the past I have looked but it is a very faded general register the site can be awkward but it can be worth persisting
ray b

[BmthbelleNZ]

Hi and thanks for the reply.

I have tried to disciper the parish records from LincsToPast without much success. So very faded .

I suppose I was hoping that someone out there would be familiar with this marriage as so many of the trees seem to have made this jump back to Oliver Cromwell.

Strangely none of them show this marriage nor christening details for an Elizabeth Polhill.

[ray b]

hi again
I have looked in vain but cannot find a marriage or baptism for e pollhill originally polehill? reddish is not a lincs name (Lancashire? Redditch) there is another family at corby which is very near bytham but I am also now stuck
rayb

[tup1]

 

Hi.

I have also checked Parish records on microfilm in Grantham library for Castle Bytham and did not find any mention of the surname Reddish or Pollhill in marrages or baptisms up to 1720.

Kathy

[ray b]

hi again
also (witham on the hill IGI) its near bytham
rayb

[BmthbelleNZ]

Thank you both, RayB and Tup1, for taking out your own time to look .

It remains a mystery as to where the idea that an Elizabeth Polhill married this Richard Reddish originated.  I would love it to be so but not without records proof.

I did spend time looking again at the Castle Bytham parish records book via the LincsToPast website.

I did see 3 baptisms whose father was a Richard Reddish. However there is no mention of his wife's name at all.

1 - Elizabeth baptised 9 March 1717
2 - Richard 25 July 1725
3 - Mary 8 November 1721.

Looking again at the IGI Family search, the records actually don't mention the Mother's name at all .

So , not only am I unable to independently confirm the popular notion that his wife was an Elizabeth Polhill ( descendant of Oliver Cromwell ), I am also now unable to state her first name was Elizabeth. 

If Richard Reddish needed to be married by license for some reason, wouldn't he have done this in Lincolnshire and not Nottinghamshire?    This is in reference to the marriage I found online for an Richard Reddish who married an Elizabeth Crumwell.

When I look at FindMyPast I can also see a Lincs marriage record of 25 Feb 1716 where a Richard Reddish married a Mary Derry. - This would be a place called SKillington, Beltisloe.  Is this place close to Castle Bytham at all?

 

[Geoff-E]

Skillington isn't too far from Castle Bytham - about 10 miles by road.  Map http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=495720&Y=321880&A=Y&Z=126

Perhaps you should be aware that Skillington is 1 mile from Leicestershire, 5 miles from Rutland and 10 miles from Notts.  Likewise, Castle Bytham is 1 mile from Rutland and 6 miles from Leicestershire, so you need not confine your search to Lincolnshire.

[ray b]

hi again
looking at oliver Cromwells tree in various places Elizabeth pollhill would appear to have been born in otford kent as they appear to be a well of family would she not have been married from home
ray b