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John Rule and Mary A Martin Camborne
« on: Tuesday 07 May 13 22:46 BST (UK) »
Mary A Martin born 1851 and John Rule marry in 1871 but he doesn't appear in any of the census' with his wife and their son John is born in 1871.
Mary lives with her parents in 1871,address Trevenson Terrace and also with her son John and her parents Thomas and Mary Martin in 1881 and 1891 the address is Trevenson Street,Camborne.
but I can't find her husband John.They are all born in camborne.
I would like to know more about John Rule if posible.

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Re: John Rule and Mary A Martin Camborne
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 May 13 22:51 BST (UK) »
Mary is shown as married in 1881 & 1891 but is a milliner which indicates she is not being supported by her husband.  Looks like they were separated

What was John's occupation on the marriage cert?   How old was he and what was his fathers name and occupation
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Re: John Rule and Mary A Martin Camborne
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 May 13 22:56 BST (UK) »
You might have a slight problem here as there are at least 6 John Rules of about the right age in Camborne in the 1861 census. If you haven't already done so you need to buy the marriage certificate to make sure that you follow the correct family.

Another way would be to track all those John Rules and see if you can eliminate any.
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Re: John Rule and Mary A Martin Camborne
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 May 13 22:56 BST (UK) »
Mary is married throughout the census' and I found their marriage on BMD so I have no information about John Rule.


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Re: John Rule and Mary A Martin Camborne
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 May 13 23:02 BST (UK) »
John may have been a mariner - the fact that they married before the 1871 census yet Mary is living with her parents suggests it was either a very short lived marriage or John's job took him away from home. 

If you want to pursue John's ancestry - the only way is via a copy of the 1871 marriage cert
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Re: John Rule and Mary A Martin Camborne
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 May 13 23:11 BST (UK) »
Even though she describes herself as married another alternative is that he died. A lot of the John Rules were miners - he may have been killed in a mining accident.
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Re: John Rule and Mary A Martin Camborne
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 May 13 20:02 BST (UK) »
Camborne is about four to five miles from the nearest ports (Hayle or Portreath) & its main industry was mining so it is likley that John was a miner. During this period it was common for miners to be working abroad so it is possible for John to be in the US or Australia & died abroad.

Have you found Mary in the 1901 to see if she was a widow?
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Re: John Rule and Mary A Martin Camborne
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 May 13 20:37 BST (UK) »
Hi

Mary Ann Rule buried 30 Nov 1897 aged 47yrs. Residence: Trevenson Street.

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Re: John Rule and Mary A Martin Camborne
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 May 13 16:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the replies.
There is a good chance that the Mary Ann Rule buried 1897 is the correct person.
I have found her son, also called John ::),living in Camborne in the 1901 and 1911 censuses.
In 1901 John is living with his wife Grace and his sister Susan in Carnarthan Street,Camborne.
He is  with his wife Grace and son, also called John ::), in 1911.