John Lane, son of Sir Thomas Lane, Lord Mayor of London.

[JCTilley]

John Tilley, grandfather of Sir John Anthony Cecil Tilley married Elizabeth Fraser on 01 Feb 1804 (see above for further details).

4 Elizabeth Fraser was the daughter of 1 Thomas Fraser and Susannah Culpepper; sister of 5 Susannah Fraser who married John Anderson of Philpot Lane, brother of Alexander Anderson Philpot Lane and James Anderson plantation owner of South Carolina, USA (brothers and beneficiaries of Richard Oswald) 06 October 1792.

4 Elizabeth Fraser was the goddaughter of A Thomas Lane (d. 1784).

[JCTilley]

Unfortunately, I have found an error in the below quoted post.  I am no longer able to modify the post and so am making the amendment here:

Given Sir John Tilley KCB was born on 20 January 1813, then his father John Tilley must have died roughly between about April/May 1812 to 20 January 1813 but I have been unable to locate any memorial to him or will which, given the apparent status of the families involved, seems strange.

In his book, London to Tokyo, Sir John Tilley, Diplomat writes "To go back to my father.  He was a posthumous son, and his father had been born in 1768, a hundred years before myself, while my mother's father, uncles and aunts were all born also in the 18th century, so that I was altogether out of my generation."

Given Sir John Tilley KCB was born on 20 April 1813, then his father John Tilley must have died roughly between about July 1812 to 20 April 1813 but I have been unable to locate any memorial to him or will which, given the apparent status of the families involved, seems strange.

Maybe I am just not looking in the right places.

[chasbaz]

In 1815, The Gazette has a number of bankruptcy announcements relating to John Lane of Lane, Son & Fraser.

There is also at least one bankruptcy announcement for a John Lane of Arundel , Sussex, Corn Merchant, Dealer and Chapman.

The Wikipedia entry for South Stoneham House cites this document for when John Lane purchased. 

https://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archiveDS/archiveDownload?t=arch-425-1/dissemination/pdf/wessexar1-164666_1.pdf

3.1.4 About 1810 South Stoneham House was bought by John Lane, who in 1819 sold it to John Fleming, the owner of North Stoneham House.

That is interesting and the report has pictures.  Thanks.  I doesn't mention that my gggggfr Louis Bazalgette owned it though!

[JCTilley]

I'm slightly confused. The Sydney Mail (Jan 11 1922) has an article titled "Arthur Phillip - An Unwritten Chapter" by E. M. Green (a relative of mine). She writes the following in regards to John Lane:

"Mr. John Lane appears to have been a man of substance, and his father, Sir Thomas Lane, was Lord Mayor of London.....In an old book Sir Thomas Lane is described as a Londoner, and ancestor of Lord Foley... We can picture the city gentleman driving to the village of Peckham to visit his son and daughter-in-law, and their portraits by Copley and Romney fill in the picture."

Emma seems to think that John's father was Sir Thomas Lane. She could be right, but I would like to confirm this. When searching on the net I came across Sir Thomas Lane and his wife Mary Ashurt and children. It shows us that John was born in the late 1600s. I've got John's year of birth as 1743. - Could it be possible that they have it all wrong and I'm correct. Also, on further research, I came across Joseph Lane son of Sir Thomas Lane who was born in 1743 and died in 1795 (This was found on google books, a primary source). The date range is similar to John.

Other evidence to support Sir Thomas being the father of John is his incredible amount of wealth. John privately funded a fleet of ships for Admiral Arthur Phillip (1st Gov. of NSW), as the crown and admiralty opposed funding for it. Also, I found out that Sir Thomas owned land in New Jersey and his grandson by the name of Thomas Lane had some control over the land prior to the outbreak of the American Revolution. John Lane had a son by the name of Thomas Lane.

I would appreciate it if someone could help me with this mess. I'd like to confirm that Sir Thomas Lane was the father of John Lane.

Kind Regards,

Sykes.

Since your original post Sykes, The Sydney Living Museum has published information on Arthur Philips.

https://sydneylivingmuseums.com.au/stories/first-fleet-ships/ambition-and-adventure-early-life-arthur-phillip

"When Phillip returned to England at the end of the war he brought with him two things crucial to his later success: the experience of lieutenancy supervising a diverse crew, and the patronage of Captain Michael Everitt, a family connection, and Captain Augustus Hervey, who was a future politician and the third earl of Bristol."



Captain Michael Everitt (1716-1776) was the father of Eleanor Everitt (1747-1827) who married John Lane (1743-1829) on 30 June 1767 in Fareham, Hampshire, England.

Together, they had 3 children, Elizabeth Lane (1782-1782), Harriet Eleanor Lane (1776-1860) and Thomas Lane (1768-1834).

Still working on the parentage of father of John Lane's father - Thomas Lane (?-1784). 

Have you got any further forward?