1841/1851 Ringwood Look up please

[percy]

IN the 1861 Census GEORGE EDWARD LANGER : aged 2 : is listed at 44 High St, Ringwood, Hampshire, together with his Grandparents WILLIAM LANGER (Head of household) and CHARLOTTE -- and assorted uncles & aunts --- BUT NOT HIS PARENTS.

George Edward appears again in the 1871 Census with his Grandparents etc., and in the 1881/91 and 1901 census elsehere --- BUT NO INDICATION IN ANY OF THEM AS TO THE NAMES OF or the whereabouts of his parents.

If possible, would someone be kind enough to look in the 1841 and/or 1851  High Street, Ringwood, Hampshire, Census for WILLIAM LANGER (head) CHARLOTTE LANGER (wife) and list ALL the occupants present -------- which, with luck, should give me the missing name of George Edward's father.

The eldest (aunt) shown in 1861 was age 28, and the next two were uncles aged 27 and 25 : Gge Ed's father may therefore have been 16/ or 19 if he shows in the 1851 .

Kind regards,   PERCY

[zapcat]

Hello

Sorry I can't help with a lookup in the 1841 or 1851 census but you may be interested in the following Ringwood baptisms:

LANGAR   Hannah   15 May 1771   of David & Ann   6 months old
LANGAR   Nanny   15 September 1775   of David & Ann   
LANGAR   William   10 December 1777   of David & Ann   
LANGAR   Charles   18 February 1821   of William & Ann   of R, Malster
LANGAR   Jane   1 February 1818   of William & Ann   of R, Malster
LANGAR   Charlotte Gates   5 August 1832   of William & Charlotte   of R, Tailor
LANGAR   William Arthur   28 July 1833   of William & Charlotte   of R, Tailor
LANGAR   Mary   28 April 1815   of William & Nancy   of R, Malster
LANGER   Hannah   19 June 1772   of David & Ann   
LANGER   George Alfred   27 January 1828   of George & Eliza   of R, Attorney's Clerk
LANGER   George Edward   29 June 1859   of George & Sarah Elizabeth   of Christchurch, Tailor
LANGER   Walter Frederick   19 March 1862   of George & Sarah Elizabeth   of Christchurch, Tailor, dob 9 December 1860
LANGER   Ann Leaf   21 December 1838   of John & Ann   of Ashly, Carpenter
LANGER   Frederick   26 September 1841   of John & Ann   of R, Carpenter
LANGER   Emily   3 May 1845   of William & Charlotte   of R, Tailor
LANGER   George   16 December 1836   of William & Charlotte   of R, Tailor
LANGER   Selina   25 August 1844   of William & Charlotte   of R, Tailor
LANGER   Walter   16 December 1836   of William & Charlotte   of R, Tailor
LANGOR   George   13 May 1808   of William   
LANGOR   William   2 February 1806   of William   

And these are some Ringwood marriages that may interest you:

LANGER   David   of R, soj, bach   GATRILL   Ann   of R, sp   25 Jun 1765   Banns
LANGER   John   of R   HURDLE   Ann   of R   28 Jun 1836   
LANGER   William   of R, bach   BRINT   Ann   of R, soj, sp   22 Jan 1805
LANGER   Hannah   of R, sp   DAVIS   Thomas   soj, bach   ? Jul 1789

LANGER    George, Bach of Christchurch, Tailor, of William, Tailor, married Sarah Elizabeth TANNER, Sp of Ringwood, of John, Cattle Dealer - 28 June 1858
   
I hope these entries have given you some clues as to the parents of George Edward in 1859.

Jane7


   

[percy]

Dear Jane 7,

I have just returned home from a two week visit to the UK and found your brilliant, stunning, reply to my Langer post.

How can I thank you for such a wonderfully clear and thorough response ?    Not living in the UK I had been completely stumped for the parents --- and didn't know at all about the second child.

It is my wife's family, and we are so excited and pleased to have this gap in our research filled in.

With apologies for the delay in replying;  very kind regards, and sincere thanks.   PERCY

[zapcat]

Hello Percy

I just had another thought and found the following Ringwood baptisms which could be of interest to you:

TANNER   Georgiana   16 June 1841   of John & Elizabeth   of Poulner, Cattle Dealer
TANNER   John   31 August 1791   of John & Elizabeth   
TANNER   John Edward   11 June 1834   of John & Elizabeth   of R, Cattle dealer
TANNER   Mary Ann   16 September 1832   of John & Elizabeth   of R, Lab
TANNER   Sarah Elizabeth   19 February 1836   of John & Elizabeth   of R, Dealer

I hope you find something useful from this.

Regards
jane7

[percy]

Jane,

You are a STAR -------- absolutely a STAR !

Your reply about the Langers gave me at least a dozen pieces of factual information previously unknown to me --- and enabled me to deduce others.

And now the Tanners !!

You will think me singularly ungrateful not to have replied sooner, but this is the first time I have logged on since I last thanked you.

Really, really grateful.   Very kind regards,  PERCY

[T Warren]

I have come across your email and would be interested to know if you would have any information on  a 'Mary Grey' aged 7 who was boarding with Sarah Elizabeth Langer in 1881 at Poulner Road, Ringwood.

Also if you would know what bacame of Sarah Langer & the rest of her children as to whether they remained in Ringwood or moved elsewhere?

We are descendants of Mary Grey and apart from appearing in the 1881 census there is no other information to be found......

Kind Regards

Thelma

[zapcat]

Thelma

Sorry I can't find anything on Mary Grey in my notes.  Do you know where and who she married?

As to Sarah Langer, she married Lewis Tom Guy and moved to Highcliffe and then possible to Andover where she died in 1914, aged 78 yrs.

One of her sons, George Edward married Alice E Smooker in 1883, but it would appear that she died in 1892.  Their children appear in later census in Sussex and in Derbyshire with various Aunts and Uncles.  It would appear that he later married Helen Jane Belbin in Christchurch.

I hope this helps.

Jane

[T Warren]

Jane

Thank you for responding so quickly and also the information regarding Sarah Langer.

In respect of my grandmother Mary Grey, she went into domestic service in Weybridge, Surrey and married a Ralph Wheatley in 1899, they lived for several years in Walton on Thames, Surrey. My grandfather had his own Wheelwright business.  They retired to Cornwall where she died aged 94. 

As mentioned my grandmother never knew her parentage, is it possible that she was born in a workhouse close to Ringwood? or was there something similar in existence in the 1870's for fostering or the like..  She was told from a young age, that a trust fund was administered on her behalf by a solicitors practice in Guildford, Surrey.

It is baffling as to why there is no record of her birth, I have recently been to Winchester Records Office with family members, but cannot find a trace of her baptism or any record of her, other than her entry in the 1881 Census with Sarah Langer.  Can you suggest any other likely areas I should search?

Kind regards,

Thelma

[moors]

1841 Christchurch Street HO107/398
William Langer head 30 tailor
Charlotte   "     wife   30
Charlotte                     9
William                         8
George                        6
Walter                         4
Selena                         1

1841  Elms Poulner                       
Charles Langer            20 Male servant

1841 Up Street
Ann Langer                  60 Shopkeeper
Mary                             20
Jane                              20 dressmakerer

1841 Up Street
John langer                   25 Carpenter
Ann                               25
Henry                              4
Ann                                 2

I am sitting in the library at Ringwood when I saw your request. Unfortunately I have not been able to find the 1851 census here making enquiries. Ann