William Cave THOMAS 1820-1906 Artist.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

1881, as Cave Thomas, he's a lodger at 53 Welbeck St, Marylebone (aged 55, historical painter)

One of the other lodgers is John Thomas, harpist to the Queen

[Mabel Bagshawe]

1871 - W Cave Thomas is in St Pancras area with his widowed mother Ann, 73, b Yorkshire, and sister Maria Thane Thomas, 37, b Marylebone

[avm228]

Baptised at St Marylebone with surname THOMAS:

1820 (7 Jun): William, born 8 May 1820, son of William (trade) & Ann
1822 (2 Oct): George, born 10 May 1822, son of William (trade) & Ann
1825 (30 Jan): Edwin Robins, born 28 Mar 1824, son of William (trade) & Ann, of St Pancras
1828 (12 Mar): James Henry, born 2_? Mar 1826, son of William (carver & gilder) & Ann, of London St, St Pancras
1828 (12 Mar): Alfred, born 5 Jan 1828, son of William (carver & gilder) & Ann, of London St, St Pancras
1831 (5 Jan): Robert Baguley, born 14 Oct 1829, son of William (carver & gilder) & Ann, of London St, St Pancras
1831 (5 Jan): Emily Gowers, born 25 Sep 1831, dau of William (carver & gilder) & Ann, of London St, St Pancras
1834 (30 Jan): Maria Thane, born 7 Feb 1833, dau of William (carver & gilder) & Ann, of 39 London St
1835 (20 Jan): Albert Samuel, born 9 Jan 1835, son of William (carver & gilder) & Ann, of 39 London St, Fitzroy Sq.

[wilcoxon]

Albert Samuel Thomas 1835 – 1875 sibling
marriage  on  30 AUG 1871 in  Sydney, NSW to Cecilia Lysaught.
Two daughters one son all born in Au.
No descendant shown for the son, but one daughter Helena Cecilia Thomas
Birth 23 January 1873 in 5 Agnes Terrace, Surry Hills, NSW 
 Death 27 Dec 1941 in  173 Walker St. North Sydney, NSW seems to have two children both with surname Thomas before her marriage to Jack Duval .
Arthur Royce Thomas
Birth 28 JUN 1898 in Carlton, Vic.   Death 17 NOV 1954 in  173 Walker St. North Sydney, NSW

Alan Frank (Bill) Thomas Birth 5 JUN 1904 in Carlton, Vic.   Death 20 MAY 1997 in  Rooty Hill, NSW
There are descendants of these sons who seem to be alive as they show as "private"

[avm228]

Marriage, St James Westminster

17 Dec 1818

William THOMAS to Ann CAVE, both of this parish.

[Pandy]

Thanks Mabel - I think I have read that address somewhere before.  The harpist is a new lead though - I'll check him out in case he is another member of the thomas family.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Think not - i hadn't twigged the coincidence of surname, but John Thomas the harpist is Welsh and his antecedents are fairly well understood

[Pandy]

William Cave Thomas is said to have spoken with a Welsh accent - his name was sometimes written down as Cafe because of his 'soft Welsh accent'.
Could be a link - WCT may have been BORN in Marylebone, but his family may have been Welsh?

[JJen]

Hi,

In The Times (London, England), Saturday, Dec 10, 1859 there is an article recording a meeting at Lord's Cricket Ground of the Marylebone Rifles Corps recommending the formation of a brigade called West Middlesex Rifles, Mr William Cave Thomas was considered for a commission with the rank of Lieutenant.

13th Jan 1868 William Cave Thomas was promoted to Captain in 19th Middlesex Rifle Volunteer Corps.

Could this be the man you are researching?

If you have access to 19th Century British Newspaper and The Times Archives there are various articles on William Cave Thomas as an artist.

JJ