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Re: Trying to clarify my Clements Tree
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 04 May 13 05:06 BST (UK) »
NSW electoral roll  1878 for PADDINGTON  (covers  parts of Redfern, Waterloo, Woollahra, Paddington, Moore Park, Darling Point, Rushcutter’s Bay, Edgecliff,  Double Bay)

Edward CLEMENTS, Albion St, PADDINGTON, qualified as a  householder
NO others with that surname on that roll. 

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Re: Trying to clarify my Clements Tree
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 04 May 13 05:15 BST (UK) »
Deaths for Edward Clements in NSW from 1830 to 1900. Since it appears he was on the nsw E/R in 1877 that would rule out the 1873 deaths. So that leaves the 1890 death but who knows ::) There could be other deaths with surname spelt wrongly etc.

3248/1890    CLEMENTS    EDWARD J    CHARLES E    LOUISA    BOURKE      
4098/1873    CLEMENTS    EDWARD    WILLIAM    FRANCES    FORBES   
4103/1873    CLEMENTS    EDWARD    WILLIAM    ELIZABETH    FORBES

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Re: Trying to clarify my Clements Tree
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 04 May 13 05:58 BST (UK) »

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Re: Trying to clarify my Clements Tree
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 04 May 13 07:08 BST (UK) »
Edward Clements was buried at Waverley cemetery in1897 , with his wife Sarah. His death certificate notes his name as William Clements ,born 1799 (being 19 years old when arriving in syd. in1819.

I think firetail has already established that Edward and Sarah are buried together at Waverley, but the problem is that his death was registered as 'William' in 1879 (1897 was possibly a typo in the initial post.)

I am assuming that the death cert. correctly names his wife and children.

Debra  :)


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Re: Trying to clarify my Clements Tree
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 04 May 13 07:35 BST (UK) »
NSW Coroner’s Inquest 14 May 1879
William Edward CLEMENTS about 78 years died 13 May 1879 same day as knocked down by a cab (in Sydney).

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Re: Trying to clarify my Clements Tree
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 04 May 13 07:57 BST (UK) »
Edward's ages:

Conviction (1818)  19
Convict Indent (1819)  21
Application to marry (1828)  28
1828 census (1828)  30

He said he was a native of High Wycombe which is in Buckinghamshire and was also known as Chipping/Chepping Wycomb(e).  Apparently the baptism registers for the parish are indexed on FamilySearch up to 1813, but I do not see him there.

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Re: Trying to clarify my Clements Tree
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 04 May 13 12:09 BST (UK) »
Hi, its me  firetail ;D
I would like to thank every one that has posted their reply  to my enquiry,as they will help both my self & my distant cousin , also a descendant of Edward & Sarah . through another of their children
We do have death certificates for both Sarah &  Edward , and the problem was the country of birth was listed as England For Edward & no reference to mother or father or his children , as the D/Cert. for  Sarah, only having Ireland & some a daughter noted.
The next shot would be to try & find out Their Parents names & any associated family links in Dublin Ireland , England For Edward , and any further Australian connections (two of their children, The links are known to date.
Sorry I was a Bit vague on some of the details ,  But Thanks. :D
Yours sincerely : Regards   Firetail

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Re: Trying to clarify my Clements Tree
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 04 May 13 12:30 BST (UK) »
May I please ask couple of questions....

a) was it 1879 and not 1897
b) was the informant on Edward's d.c. a family member or the hospital?

I have found that often when there has been an Inquest, that the hospital supplies the information to register the death.   This means the info has been passed through several hands before it reaches the pro forma paperwork even.   So, it is entirely possible that IF I have found the "right" chap, that the hospital's notes orginally showed that they obtained the information from William for his father, Edward CLEMENTS.   Thus ending up with the registration for a William Edward CLEMENTS on the d.c. and on the inquest records.

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Re: Trying to clarify my Clements Tree
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 05 May 13 11:45 BST (UK) »
Hi : everyone its firetail back
I would like to apologise to ,majm , giblet , Dundee
Yes , the date of death for William Edward Clements was 15/5/1879 in lieu of my error
The death certificate reference is 1879/000894 & noted with above name listed
Sarah & Edward had six children ,  Jane b 1829 ,William H b1830 , William b1839 & died18/11/1884 , Joseph b 1841 , Helen b 1843 ,Elizabeth Ann b 13/8/1849 & died1931 in Sydney. due to the long hand writing on the d/cert ,its hard to read but believe both certs. for Ed & Sarah have a ref to Elizabeth.
Regards :Firetail