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Offline Roy G

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Winterborne Stoke House
« on: Wednesday 01 May 13 09:30 BST (UK) »
This is not a person search, it is an attempt to locate a house that has since been renamed in the Wiltshire village of Winterbourne Stoke.

My ancestors the Grants, lived in a house called Toomers in Winterborne Stoke for half a century, perhaps more.
In 1840, my ancestor, farmer George Grant (1757-1840) left it to his son John Grant and grandson Jakob who were living there at the time and it is presumed it was handed on to various members of the Grant family for a good many years after that.  The Tithe apportionment of 1841 has John living in plot 147, but I do not have a copy of the original tithe map to compare it with, only a later map done by the Ordnance Survey and another done for the 1910 property survey which both outline plot 147 as it was in those years.  Two decades ago I felt sure that I had positively identified Toomers, but now that identification has been called into question.   

I do have a copy of a page from the 1841 census (HO 107 1167 p5) which shows John & family, but is otherwise unhelpful for it just gives the address as 'Stoke.' Are there any later Winterbourne Stoke censuses, street directories or electoral roles that not only give an address, but also show the name of the house the family is occupying?  If I can find Toomers on any one of those and then relate it to neighboring properties which may still carry their original names, it may help me discover whether I did correctly identify the house in the first place or was hopelessly wrong.   

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Re: Winterborne Stoke House
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 May 13 07:20 BST (UK) »
Hi

1861 Winterbourne Stoke
HO107 RG9 1310 61 p1

On page 1 of the census is Benjamin Grant 31 Carpenter born Winterbourne Stoke

Start there you can browse thru (about a dozen dwellings named, no Toomer).

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Re: Winterborne Stoke House
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 May 13 07:38 BST (UK) »
Hi

1871 Winterbourne Stoke
RG10 1943 61 p1
Sylvanus Grant 47 Farm Bailiff

Charles Lawford living in Vicarage House a few pages down

Again you can browse thru but no Toomer

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Re: Winterborne Stoke House
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 May 13 07:41 BST (UK) »
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1911
look for Frank Mould aged 64
He is page 1 of 143
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Re: Winterborne Stoke House
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 May 13 07:47 BST (UK) »
Are you sure the house was called "Toomers"?

I ask because there was a Toomer family living at Winterbourne Stoke for many years!
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Winterborne Stoke House
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 May 13 07:48 BST (UK) »
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1881
RG11 2063 64 p1-14

Again no Toomer

Ann Grant 62 on p7

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Re: Winterborne Stoke House
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 May 13 07:48 BST (UK) »
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There are Toomer families all over that part of Wiltshire.

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Re: Winterborne Stoke House
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 May 13 07:58 BST (UK) »
Reading the history of Winterbourne Stoke
(http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=115447#s2)
it appears that the River Till (once called the Winterbourne!) flooded in 1841 and 16 houses were destroyed.

Another 5 or so houses were demolished in c1850, to make way for a new vicarage.

In a village of 300 (or so) people, that's a large chunk of the housing!
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Winterborne Stoke House
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 May 13 08:07 BST (UK) »
Hi

1851 HO107 1845 75 p3
Toomer Lane

George Grant (UnM) 44 Gardener
Elizabeth Grant 70 Widow mother annuitant

Next door Cabels House
Aforementioned (1861) Benjamin Grant 22 Carpenter and parents Benjamin/Elizabeth



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