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Re: Winterborne Stoke House
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 16 April 14 06:26 BST (UK) »
There were a lot of Grants in the locality as as you write Briony, so I would not be 100% certain that was our Louisa Grant nee Dyer dying in Salisbiry in 1941, but the sums seem to certainly suggest it was.  The censuses give her a birth year of c1854 + age 87 = 1941 the year she died.

You may have also seen Frank's headstone in the churchyard at WBS. I recently discovered that he is recorded as having taken a shotgun to end his own life on 17th Feb 1911.  I therefore find his burial unusual for I always thought some churches were reluctant to accept anyone who orchestrated their own demise. 
see   http://salisburyinquests.wordpress.com/1911-2/grant-frank/

If you carefully pick your way through the Coroner's very detailed report above you will find it contains numerous additional snippets of family information.  I was able to deduce from it that Frank Grant (1852-1911) was a retired carrier living in the post office.  Furthermore, the village blacksmith (Lewis Henry Dyer) was his nephew and his son Edward had only recently married Alice Gertrude Williams (Dec qtr 1910).

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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 17 April 14 10:42 BST (UK) »
Roy thanks very much for your time on this,because there were so many large families,in Winterborne Stoke,c1800/1911,its extremely difficult to trace accurately,the Salisbury Inquest list is a very helpful tool.Good luck with your own research,Brionne.
Dyer,Wilts,Weare Somerset Dorset Wilts.
Weare/Robinson Ottawa Canada.Petty Wilts.
Simper Wilts.West Wilts.West Vermont.Kelsey Surrey.Chappell
Chapel Essex.McPherson,M Pherson MacPherson
Perthshire Scotland,Cork,Dublin,Drogheda Ireland.
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« Reply #20 on: Monday 04 May 15 23:05 BST (UK) »
Hi
I have just found this site after looking up the Grants of WBS.
I am the great-granddaughter of Frank and Louisa Grant and great-great-granddaughter of Ann (Lodge) and Jacob Grant. My grandparents were Kathleen (Grant) and Hugo Lockyer and they had the shop on the 303 that is now the filling station and I lived there when I was born.
I am always pleased to hear anything about the family. My Mother and I did quite a lot of research into the family tree some years ago from the Church records.
Alison

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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 07:59 BST (UK) »
Hi There Alison
I'm a WBS Grant too, going back to George and Rachel who were Baptists and arrived in WBS from Chitterne about 1797.  Your relative, their son Jacob (former soldier who married your Ann Lodge .... albeit EVENTUALLY) and my John 'Shepherd' Grant  were brothers.   I'll send you a private message so we can swap e-mail addresses.  If you also have Geni, you can look up my-our tree on that.
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« Reply #22 on: Sunday 14 June 15 11:46 BST (UK) »
Just writing again Alison.  My reply to your request for an exchange of info never prompted a response.
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Re: Winterborne Stoke House
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 14 June 15 14:44 BST (UK) »
Roy G:

Alison has only ever posted once, so cannot reply to personal messages, surely?

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« Reply #24 on: Sunday 14 June 15 16:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks Chempat.  I always thought that beginners could respond but not originate.  Even so, a short message saying they were having difficulty on this side of Rootschat would have sufficed.  Roy G

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« Reply #25 on: Sunday 14 June 15 17:04 BST (UK) »
I don't think that newcomers with less than 3 posts can either receive or send personal messages.  C.Alison may well be still waiting for your message.

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Re: Winterborne Stoke House
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 25 March 23 08:55 GMT (UK) »
By way of a somewhat belated update. I am a direct descendant of the original owner of "Toomers", ie before it passed to the Grant family. After Roy posted his original comment on this thread back in May 2013, I solved the mystery by consulting the Enclosures Map at the Wiltshire Archives. The Key to the plot numbers was included on the map itself, and it showed two plots under the heading of "Toomers Copyhold", but with George Grant's name written underneath: one allotment (plot 51) and one inclosure (plot 140) containing a dwelling. I then looked at the Tithe Map (signed/certified on 11 Jan 1841, a few days before the Great Flood) and immediately noticed that whilst the plots themselves were identical to those on the Enclosures Map, so instantly recognisable, the plot numbers were different. Plot 140 (Toomers) had been renumbered as Plot 147, and was owned and occupied by John Grant. Looking at later maps, a lot of the plots were still clearly identical, but yet again had different numbers - and this is what had caused all the confusion.

"Toomers" stood at the end of a narrow lane leading west from the old school on New Road/Church Rd. There was a row of five cottages on the left (just after the lane on the right to Manor Cottage) and Toomers stood on the opposite side, immediately after the last one. I have a photo of these five cottages, taken from the 1916 sale particulars of Manor Farm, but I don't know when they were demolished. They appear to have made way for New Road to be extended. Using the NLS Maps overlay facility, the Toomers dwelling house would have been in the front garden of 7 Meadow View, New Rd, although the plot itself would have included the field at the back where the sewage tank is located! there was no sign of the Toomer dwelling in 1877, according to the 1:250000 OS map surveyed in 1877.