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Timothy O'BRIEN (Kyneton Victoria Australia 1890s?)
« on: Tuesday 30 April 13 04:55 BST (UK) »
Hi
I'm searching for any information about a Timothy O'Brien born possibly County Clare somewhere around Tulla. His family were farmers, he had a sister named Ellen who married a John Malley and they lived and died in Tulla, Ireland. He immigrated to Australia, not sure when, and had a farm around Kyneton Victoria. His niece, Catherine O'Malley visited him sometime in the late 1890s.
Any help would be appreciated
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Christine

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Re: Timothy O'Brien (Kyneton Victoria Australia 1890s?)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 April 13 05:03 BST (UK) »
Christine you need first of all to contact the moderator to get your post moved to the Australia board.  (Click on the Report to Moderator thingy in your post.)

Then someone with Victoria interests may be able to help you, but they probably would not see it on "How to use Rootschat"    ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

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Re: Timothy O'Brien (Kyneton Victoria Australia 1890s?)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 April 13 10:22 BST (UK) »
Christine, do you happen to know the names of Timothy O'Brien's parents?
That could help in a search for him in the Victorian records, as there are a lot of Timothy O'Briens listed and a number with the birthplace of Ireland.


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Re: Timothy O'Brien (Kyneton Victoria Australia 1890s?)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 May 13 00:27 BST (UK) »
East Trentham is south west of Kyneton.  Have a search on google maps.

Some speculative research but this is the only O'BRIEN who are farmers in the area but this is in 1903 the first roll after Federation and following the visit of Catherine.

Australian Electoral Roll
1903  Corinella/East Trentham
O’BRIEN Timothy Snr  Farmer  East Trentham
O’BRIEN Timothy Jnr  Farmer  East Trentham

Marriage
OBRIEN Timothy born Clare
HAYES Margaret born Clare
1868  Reg#4055

Births
Twins -
OBRIEN Thomas
Father Timothy Mother Margaret HAYES
At Tylden  1869  Reg#25554

OBRIEN Michael
Father Timothy  Mother Margaret HAYES
At Tylden  1869  Reg#25555

OBRIEN Ellen
Father Timothy  Mother: Margaret HAYES
AT Tylden  1871  Reg#12843

OBRIEN Margaret
Father: Timothy   Mother Margaret HAYES
At East Trentham  1873  Reg#13308

OBRIEN Timothy
Father Timothy  Mother Margaret HAYES
At Trentham  1878  Reg#19690
 
OBRIEN Anna Maria
Father Timothy  Mother Margaret HAYES
At Trentham  1880  Reg#25684

OBRIEN Bridget
Father Timothy  Mother Margaret HAYES
At Trentham  1883  Reg#13086

OBRIEN Thomas Joseph
Father Timothy  Mother Margaret HAYES
At Trentham  1886  Reg#25764

OBRIEN Sarah Theresa
Father Timothy  Mother Margaret HAYES
At Trentham  1886  Reg#25765


http://www.australiancemeteries.com/vic/hepburn/tyldenoz_data.htm
Lots of excellent information on the O'BRIEN family of East Trentham.

Interred in the Tylden Cemetery
O’BRIEN Timothy  68 years  24 Apr 1909
Residence East Trentham
Rank  Farmer
Father  Michael O’BRIEN
Mother  Ellen McNAMARA

Death
OBRIEN Timothy
Father  Michael  Mother Elle McNAMARA
At Trentham East   68 years  1909  Reg#4815

Probate file on
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54
Interesting that a photo of the Trentham area is attached to Timothy's Will which was dated 18 Apr 1909 five days before his death.

Interred in the Tylden Cemetery
O’BRIEN  Margaret   80 years  30 Jun 1914
Residence Sunbury
Rank Farmer’s wife
Parents unknown

Death
OBRIEN Margaret
Parents unknown
At Sunbury  80 years  1914  Reg#7632

Deaths at Sunbury are often at the Sunbury Asylum and inquests were routine for deaths in public institutions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbury_Asylum

Inquest Index
OBRIEN Margaret
1914  Ref#549
Cause Rupture Heart
29 Jun 1914

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The Argus  Wed 11 Feb 1903
KYNETON On Tuesday morning, at St Mary's Roman Catholic Church, Kyneton the sacred offices of profession and reception of two nuns were performed. ……... Miss Annie O'Brien daughter of Mr. Timothy O'Brien, East Trentham, received the white veil, and will be known in religion as Sister Mary Teresa. ……..
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The Argus  29 May 1909
O'BRIEN–LENIHAN.–On the 21st April at St Francis R C Church, Melbourne, by the Rev Father Harnett, of Lancefield, Timothy J, second son of the late Timothy O'Brien, East Trentham, to Bridget Cecelia, second youngest daughter of John Lenihan, Lancefield.

Have a search on http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper as there may be more about the O'BRIEN family from East Trentham and Kyneton.

There is an O'BRIEN listing at Trentham East
http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/initResSearch.do

I do hope this is your family  ;D 

Cheers  :)
Cando
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Re: Timothy O'BRIEN (Kyneton Victoria Australia 1890s?)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 May 13 11:02 BST (UK) »
Cloundes has sent a thank you by pm :)

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Re: Timothy O'BRIEN (Kyneton Victoria Australia 1890s?)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 May 13 12:31 BST (UK) »
Cloundes has made contact with the family in Victoria :)  Made my day :-X

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Re: Timothy O'BRIEN (Kyneton Victoria Australia 1890s?)
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 May 13 09:06 BST (UK) »
Great work, Cando and thanks for letting us know that Cloundes has found some family.

In case they have not seen it PROV has the digitised will for Timothy OBRIEN, d 26 April 1909, farmer of East Trentham.  The will was made not long before he died and is written on a piece of paper with a view of Trentham.  He left all to his wife, Margaret.

http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54   (Leave the apostrophe out)

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Re: Timothy O'BRIEN (Kyneton Victoria Australia 1890s?)
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 May 13 09:15 BST (UK) »
I think she may have found it Judith...I posted the link in the rather long and messy post. 

I can't believe I found the right family....pure luck really and being familiar with that area.  Gee I am starting to sound like the song "I've been everywhere man, I've been every where...." :P

Cheers :)
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Re: Timothy O'BRIEN (Kyneton Victoria Australia 1890s?)
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 May 13 09:42 BST (UK) »
I'll echo Judith, Cando......   :D

Cloundes must be so pleased.

(I've actually got internet, albeit slow internet, for the weekend!)


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Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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