PREEO - James Henry. What was his fate?

[Neil Todd]

Would James Henry have been born on the Island of St Martin and then been apprenticed as a Tailor and stayed with his Grandfather on Guernsey as Boarders in 1881.

Sorry lots of questions but just trying to help.

Neil

[terrypreeo]

Hi Neil
Thanks for you efforts. I have the Guernsey side of things covered. The Priaulx Library was started by Carteret Priaulx, a merchant who had a role in starting the first bank in Guernsey. I gather the merchants of the time were boarderline pirates. No relation. My family originated in the Forest, or la Floret, and then St Martins, both parishes. I was fortunate enough to visit Guernsey in 2011 and, as they say, trod the paths of my ancestors. Anyone researching Channel Islands ancestors is fortunate because of the wealth of information available to them, although much is only available on the island and most of that, particularly the parish records, have not been digitised. Guernsey has an active genealogical society.
There are no records to suggest James moved back to Guernsey and I can't find a record of him leaving Australia.
The 1881 census record you mentioned is correct. His grandfather, Jean, and James were living with Jean's daughter, James' aunt, Lucie Moon, in St Peters Port. It was here that James learnt his trade of Tailor as that was his uncle James' trade.

[muss]

Hi
 Maybe worth checking from AGCI
Henry Priaulx and Amelia Priaulx death 11 September 1945 NZL Auckland Purewa Cemetery Transcript.

Muss

[Neil Todd]

While James Henry may not have ventured to his home he may have gone back to England somewhere or to NZ as there was a fair amount of movement around that time. The recession/depression of the 1890's saw a lot of people change trades as more engineering type roles were coming in and held growth prospects along with mining.

I will continue to look?

Do you know anyone on the Island that can do look ups "for free" All of the online seems a bit expensive over $10 au.?

Neil

Modified..

OOH sorry Muss you red jammed my post.

[Neil Todd]

Amelia Reid married John Priaulx in 1892 Ref # 1892/861

Neil

[majm]

Sorry for the long post, I am not a very good wordsmith….

I am suggesting that you should consider obtaining the information from the parish register for the 1887 marriage of your James PREEO.     This is because it is likely to be the only document that is based on information that James provided directly about himself to any official in NSW.   You should expect to learn the following from the parish register….. (the NSW BDM register may not have all the information, as I explained in the thread I linked in reply # 11).

Groom’s name (Christian name/s and Surname
Status (Bachelor, Divorcee, Widower)
Place of Birth (I have 1888 NSW marriage, and the document shows the English Village, and County)
Occupation
Age
Usual Residence
Father (his full names, and quite often, if known to be deceased, that is noted here too)
Occupation (or Profession/Rank etc)
Mother (her full names, and maiden name if known, and sometimes other surnames, eg if re-married)

Same for the Bride

Date of the Marriage, then the place, the denomination (according to the rites of ………………………..) the names of the witnesses, and the name of the Minister.   The parish register will also note who provided consent for any minors to marry.   This can also be a significant piece of information for family history purposes.  In NSW in that era, persons aged under 21 years were lawfully considered to be INFANTS (ie minors) and so had no lawful right to be heard directly, or to give consent by themselves.  Thus to enter into a marriage contract they required the consent of an adult person who was already responsible for them.  The person giving consent is named and their relationship to the person (bride or groom) is noted on the parish registers.   

The ‘real deal’ cert from the NSW BDM and thus also the Official Transcript of the ‘real deal’ cert OFTEN does not have all the above details, if it is for a marriage 1856-1895.   Some of the NSW BDM registers were reconciled to the parish registers back around 100 years ago.   The parish registers DO have all the information that was required by the various denominations Church laws.    The elusive blanks are detailed on that linked thread.

I find it significant to get to the parish registers particularly when there’s changes to surnames, as in your instance.   The parish register will show you the signature of the groom, or if he made his mark. 

If you don’t know which denomination, or the actual church where Sarah married James then you will need to get a copy of the official transcription before you can proceed. 

Many Cheers,

JM

[majm]

May I please ask for the name of the ship for James migration in 1882.   

Cheers,  JM   (See I can do short posts  )

[majm]

I can see a James Priaulex, aged 18, a tailor, native of Guernsey, C of E, can Read and Write, as a passenger on the Abergeldie arriving 3 Feb 1884 to Sydney NSW. 

NSW SRO has digitised images available no charge :   
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/nrs-lists/nrs-5316

So I find it a tad confusing that a chap would could read and write when he arrived in 1884, has his surname recorded with a phonetic spelling when he married in 1887 and that new surname becomes the surname for him and his descendents in NSW… .  It is why I am asking about the information James PREEO provided to the clergyman when being interviewed prior to marriage at Uralla in 1887.

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Hi there,

The volunteer transcriber for the Mariners website has the chap on the Abergeldie as Jas PRIESLLEY ….   

http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1884/02/010abe.htm

Cheers,  JM