Richard Hathornthwaite

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I am searching for Richard Hathornthwaite born in or near lancaster, in 1675. His daughter Ann was baptised in Lancaster about 1700.

Any info greatly appreciated.

Jackie

[rosie99]

Hi Jackie
There is this one in 1669 

Richard Hathornthwait
Christened 16 May 1669
St Mary, Lancaster
Father George Hathornthwait
Batch P00590-1

[Radcliff]

Was this their first child,

Marriage
St Mary Lancaster
5th August 1682
Rich Hathornthwaite,of Wiresdale
Ann Dickonson of Melling

[rosie99]

Possible siblings for Ann christened at St Mary's Lancaster
Elizabeth    20 June 1697
Margaret  06 Feb 1698
Mary 28 September 1702

[baglet2]

Thank you so much for the info. It looks as though this is my Richard Hathornthwaite. Onwards and upwards.

Jackie

[baglet2]

Just checking dates here, and can't see my Richard being married at 13, and no children before 1697 if this is his marriage, any thoughts please ?

Thanks, Jackie

[Ladyhawk]

I am searching for Richard Hathornthwaite born in or near lancaster, in 1675. His daughter Ann was baptised in Lancaster about 1700.

Possible siblings for Ann christened at St Mary's Lancaster
Elizabeth    20 June 1697
Margaret  06 Feb 1698
Mary 28 September 1702

Did Ann marry William Helme?

Wm Helme Goosnargh
Anne Hathornthwaite Wyersdale 28 Jan 1724
Marriages from Lancashire: Lancaster - Parish Register, 1691-1748

Anne Hathornthwaite bapt 22 Sep 1700 St Mary Father Richd Hathornthwaite
Reference Number:   Pr 3262/1/2   
Reads, Anne daughter of Rich’d Hathornthwaite of Lower L?(Smudged) in Wye*d**

Hathornthwaite bapt 28 Sep 1702 St Mary father Rich'd Hathornthwaite
Reference Number:   Pr 3262/1/2
Reads, Mary daughter of Ric’d Hathornthwaite of ? Lo Wyersdail

Margaret d. of Richd Hathernwaite of Lower Lee Wyersd: 06 Feb 1697

Margaret Hathornwaite bapt 6 Feb 1697 St Mary father Richd Hathornwaite
Reference Number:   Pr 3262/1/2

Elizabeth d. of Richd Hathernwaite of Wyersdale 20 Jun 1697

there's this burial - a possible son - no age given
Richard Hathornthwaite of Wyersdale 23 Jun 1701
Burials (Burial) from Collection Lancaster - Parish Register, 1691-1748
Reference Number:    Pr 3262/1/2

There's this baptism for a Richard probably too early to be their father 

Richard s. of Thomas Hathornthwaite of the Lower Leey in Wirsd: 31 Jul 1650, Baptisms  from Lancaster - Parish Register, 1559-1690
 - perhaps this Richard is the one that married Ann Dickonson of Melling as posted by Radcliff

their father Richard more likely to be the 1669 baptism  as posted by Rosie99 

Richard Hathornthwaite bapt 16 May 1669 St Mary father Ger (think it reads Geo) of Bul?
Reference Number:   Pr 3262/1/1

(source An*y)

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Ladyhawk

Thank you so much for this. Yes Ann married William Helme, so I think we have it right.

Jackie

[peterkh]

I have a large amount of data on Hathornthwaites (my family name), and I am not sure that the correspondence to date has this quite right about Ann daughter of Richard Hathornthwaite (but I am always willing to be corrected by new evidence). The problem is that there were two Richard Hs living at the same time in Over Wyresdale, about a mile apart. One was at Lower Lee. His was a wealthy family. He was the one who married Ann Dickonson and baptised a daughter Ann 22 Sep 1700 Lancaster St Mary, of the Lower Lee. I think this Ann probably married James Walmsley 11 Apr 1724 Lancaster St Mary. This branch of the H family later claimed (in a lengthy 1816 Will) to be related to the Walmsley family. This Richard H was bur 15 Feb 1728/9 Lancaster St Mary as Richard H of Lower Leey.
However, there was another Richard H in Tarnbrook just up the road from Lower Lee who was bur 22 Feb 1737/8 as Richard H of Tarnbrook and whose 1737 Will names William Helme as Executor, suggesting he was very likely a son in law, so it is probably his daughter Ann who married William Helme, Joiner of Goosnargh, on 28 Dec 1724 Lancaster St Mary, although this Ann's baptismal record appears to be lost.
Altogether, this is a complex area. Many PR records appear lost, as is apparent from a close study of H Wills which often mention far more individuals than appear in the PRs.