Lookup for Archibald D. de Solla

[keyboard86]

Hi all, now found the "lost" census for the De Solla family in 1861:-

Jacob A SOLLA 52 occ Clockmaker one man one boy b Netherlands
Adelaide 48 b Netherlands
Maurice 26 occ Musician b Netherlands
Henry 24 occ Musician b Netherlands
Caroline 23 b Netherlands
Michel 15 b St Marylebone
Annie 14 b St Marylebone
Rachel 11 b St Marylebone
Abraham 9 b St Marylebone
Raphael 7 b Lambeth
Residing at 34, Waterloo Road, Lambeth
Census ref RG09/349/167/10
Keyboard86

Rachel in 1851?

In 1861 David De Solla is aged 19 occ Foreign Watchmaker b London residing in Bath Somerset Census ref RG09/1686/19/32

[lostgirl19]

First of all, thanks to everyone for your help! Some info is new, some is not.
1) Mary Solly is Archibald? I don't understand...
2) It was my grandparents that came over on the Saxonia (along with some of my uncles and aunts).
3) Did Jacob have two professions? In 1851 he was a Theatrical Singer and in 1861 a Clockmaker? Interesting to note that I found a mention of an Antique Clock Repair business named Jacob & Son of London - this must have been Jacob and son David. David's grandson (Archibald) was also a watchmaker.
4) I haven't come across any Von Volen but Jacob's daughter Rachel did marry a Van Bienne. Maybe the Von Volens were from her mother's side of the family (Kramp or Cramp).

The de Solla's were a prominent Jewish family (sadly, quite a few de Solla's were murdered during the Holocaust, hence the migration to the UK). However, my great-grandfather Abraham married out of the Jewish faith - so our Canadian branch of the de Solla's are no longer Jewish - although many of the de Solla's now living in the UK are, I believe.

I am very happy to have found a connection with two existing de Solla families in the UK. It's fun to see how the family evolved and migrated around.

I don't know how to thank-you. I'm very grateful for all that you've researched for me.
Thanks again,
lostgirl19 (Wendy de Solla)

[keyboard86]

  Hi again, Archibald has been transcribed as Mary!

Keyboard86

[ShaunJ]

Did Jacob have two professions?

There are several thousand of mentions of the name De Solla in the British newspapers of the 19th century from 1850 onwards

I have only looked at a couple of articles. One of them was an 1864 article concerning Raphael de Solla, infant tenor, who was briefly famous as the "world's smallest vocalist". It mentions that his parents Mr & Mrs  J. de Solla had retired from their musical careers four years earlier. This particular article has quite a lot of information about the family (Liverpool Mercury, 21 January 1864, page 7).

In connection with the clock business, the first ad I can find for J De Solla and Son is in 1857, but they claim to have been established since 1841.

[lostgirl19]

Excellent! Thanks! I guess you have found what I was looking for. I appreciate all of your help!

[lostgirl19]

Just an update for the Van Volen family. As I suspected, the wife of Jacob de Solla (Aaltje or Adelaide Kramp) had a sister Ester who married Raphael Van Volen in Amsterdam (1827). This would have made Caroline de Solla (Aaltje's daughter) a cousin to the Van Volen children.They must have emigrated to the UK at about the same time as the de Sollas. Gerrett Van Volen (married to Sara Drukker) must have been Raphael and Ester's son - making him Caroline's cousin. They were about the same age (according to the 1881 Census that was provided to me by a family member). Here is the listing for Ester and Raphael Van Volen:
http://www.dutchjewry.net/genealogie/gezin/hum_ashken/F16191/I22659/

Just wanted to make a correction...the de Solla's did not leave the Netherlands because of the Holocaust - a great many left well before that. The Jewish families suffered many periods of turmoil (including also the Spanish Inquisition). I got a little carried away and forgot to check my dates... 

lostgirl19

[so4403]

Just wanted to make a correction...the de Solla's did not leave the Netherlands because of the Holocaust - a great many left well before that. In respact of Archibald David de Soll'a That is my fathers name unfortunately we were separated 1944 I have not really understood what this site is about but should you be able to help in any way please give me an answer?

[lostgirl19]

Well hello SO4403! I too am a de Solla (from Canada). This site is used for looking up family history information. There are two de Solla families in the UK that I am in contact with and I was looking to find a connection with my de Solla ancestors. Thanks to the information that was given to me by other people on this site, I was able to find the connection! I would like to contact you - I'll see if I'm able to send you a private message (I may not be able to). If you look at the earlier posts on this listing, you'll see more information concerning your father (and grandfather!). I'm glad that you were able to find this posting!
Cheers!

[so4403]

Well hello SO4403! I too am a de Solla (from Canada). This site is used for looking up family history information. There are two de Solla families in the UK that I am in contact with and I was looking to find a connection with my de Solla ancestors. Thanks to the information that was given to me by other people on this site, I was able to find the connection! I would like to contact you - I'll see if I'm able to send you a private message (I may not be able to). If you look at the earlier posts on this listing, you'll see more information concerning your father (and grandfather!). I'm glad that you were able to find this posting!
Cheers!

Fantastic that you have answered. I would like to give you more info to my de Soll'a/s

I am Peter, father as you know Archibald David Mother Edith May maden name Jarvis

They had four sons Lesley/ David and a junger brother William do these names of my brothers, do any of these names fit in with your reserch.

Best wishes from Berlin Germany
Peter