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Re: John Hill (c1810-1860), born London, arrived NSW c.1834
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 27 April 13 04:13 BST (UK) »
Correct assumption re Adelaide Hospital records - they usually do record other useful information, but not in his case.  There are columns for address - 'Adelaide' (not helpful), occupation - 'labourer', birthplace - 'London', age - '50', ship of arrival 'blank'.  Amazingly every other entry of that page, for every other patient admitted a few weeks either side of him, has the ship name entered, but his column is blank. In any event, I happen to know the ship name and date of arrival from Sydney in Sep 1837, but it is where he came from before arrival - his arrival at NSW and activities in NSW and in UK that are even more enigmatic.  As I said - a hard case.

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Re: John Hill (c1810-1860), born London, arrived NSW c.1834
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 27 April 13 05:31 BST (UK) »
There’s a Mr John HILL of Wooloomooloo marrying a  Mrs Susannah OAKES of Castlereagh St, Sydney on Saturday 13 July 1833 by special licence, as per the following cutting (Sydney Monitor 17 July 1833) http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/32144168

Shipping departures (yes I know, you want your chap’s arrival ! ),  John HILL for Mauritus via Launceston on the HIND  ….  I note this simply because this was an era when the passengers were still required to prove they were not convicts or former convicts attempting to return to Britain without a licence to do so….  Passenger Lists if available would show if that chap was travelling under a licence issued by the Governor.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2198900  Sydney Gaz 5 Feb 1831. 

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Re: John Hill (c1810-1860), born London, arrived NSW c.1834
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 27 April 13 05:44 BST (UK) »
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2205031 Sydney Gaz 23 June 1836
John HILL of Woolloomoolloo (has a MILL there) witness in a court case.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2217009 Sydney Gaz 4 Sept 1834
John HILL, a miller at Woolloomoolloo was robbed !


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Re: John Hill (c1810-1860), born London, arrived NSW c.1834
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 27 April 13 10:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks JM - unlikely to be him. This John Hill was never 'in trade' - before he went broke in his 40s, in his wealthy 20s and 30s he mixed with the likes of pastoralists, colonial 'gentry', bankers, state governors, investors, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if he was distantly connected to Sir John Hill of Hawkestone Park, Shropshire. One tidbit that may help sort him out from the others named 'John Hill' re his time in NSW (c1833-1837) was that he was much involved in the turf, both in NSW and SA, and in 1837 brought with him from NSW to SA a thoroughbred Arabian stallion racehorse, named Rainbow.  He was descended from a pure Arabian stallion of the same name imported in 1828 from India to Sydney by Captain H.J. Rous, R.N., on HMS Rainbow, the frigate that was his command at the time. John Hill may have been also connected with Young Rainbow, a mare that had previously been the property of Henry Baily of Parramatta, an avid racehorse owner.