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Re: GRO lookup
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 24 April 13 19:57 BST (UK) »
My brother died in Huddersfield 1947 and the free GRO Index did not have his death details but the Huddersfield local register office did.

Therefore contact them

contact details in the link (Ignore the Dewsbury contact details -its the Huddersfield address you need)


Huddersfield Register Office
 Lena Corion
 Huddersfield Register Office
 Huddersfield Town Hall
 Ramsden Street
 Hudddersfield
 HD1 2TA
 Tel: 01484 221030

International from Australia

Tel 00 44 01484 221030 UK time or middle of Ozzy night time
 Email: huddersfield.registrars@kirklees.gov.uk

http://www.kirklees.gov.uk/community/registrars/registrars.shtml#contact

Note:

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/wortley.html

Ecclesfield has never been part of Huddersfield in West Yorkshire GRO District)

Ecclesfield became part of Wortley GRO district which later became part of Barnsley (now part of Sheffield and Barnsley Districts in South Yorkshire)

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Re: GRO lookup
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 24 April 13 21:14 BST (UK) »
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/wortley.html

Ecclesfield has never been part of Huddersfield in West Yorkshire GRO District)

Ecclesfield became part of Wortley GRO district which later became part of Barnsley (now part of Sheffield and Barnsley Districts in South Yorkshire)

hope it helps

Quite right!  BUT the parish of Cumberworth was part of Ecclesfield RD, and then became part of Huddersfield RD! ;D ;D

Please don't confuse Ecclesfield parish with Ecclesfield Registration District.

See Table 2 here: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/ecclesfield.html
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: GRO lookup
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 24 April 13 23:31 BST (UK) »
   ;D
Gets more confusing as parts (Moors) of Huddersfield are now in the (Marsden moor Yorkshire /Saddleworth moor Lancashire) Derbyshire high peaks

Full address. Colne valley, Huddersfield in Kirklees metro (of the Derbyshire high peaks district national park of Derby in Lancashire & Yorkshire,) in West Yorkshire in the county of York. Diocesan of Ripon.

Just to see how confusing  ??? see bus numbers 314 to 324b, 335 & 951 in the Derbyshire bus Link

http://www.derbysbus.info/times/tt_201_999.htm
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Re: GRO lookup
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 25 April 13 03:05 BST (UK) »
Hi all
thank you for all the help.I do have what I want now .
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Re: GRO lookup
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 25 April 13 08:25 BST (UK) »
Hi

Tried posting yesterday so I will give it another go.
It would seem that the Ecclesfield death would be the one you are looking for and he was just visiting the area when he died.
But given the age I would try looking in the local papers for an inquest, their wasn't a Huddersfield paper at that time so we would be better looking in one of the 2 Leeds papers.

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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 25 April 13 12:48 BST (UK) »
Hi

I've checked out Gale 19 th century newspapers online also Leeds Library a few years back on Joseph Pennington burial entry 1840 age 47, (who was actually is buried at St Paul's chapelry of St Peter in Queen st Huddersfield [Now part of the Huddersfield Uni] for another member of Rootschat doing ancestry on Joseph) and nothing is came up.


Joseph could have died in Denbydale, Clayton West (Part of High Hoyland parish) or Cumberworth area (Ecclesfield) of now Huddersfield, if the death was recorded formaly by the parish coroner

There maybe formal Coroner office records of his death if an inquest was done.

Also as I said earlier the death could have been recorded in the Huddersfield Register office and not in the GRO index, therefore get the Huddersfield register office to check their index first! and if there is not entry of Joseph in 1840 in Huddersfield, then check Sheffield register office for the Ecclesfield entry as it possible Joseph's death was not registered that early only 3 years after the start of the GRO in 1837. The family were very poor, some siblings were petty criminal convicts sent to Australia and not have known about registering deaths.


or take a chance and send off for the 1840 GRO Ecclesfield entry

Its always a gamble buying GRO BMD certificates

https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/your-city-council/register-office/register-office-contact-details.html
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Re: GRO lookup
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 25 April 13 13:21 BST (UK) »
The local office might check details on the certificate and save you money if it is wrong.  Some are very helpful that way.

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 25 April 13 14:10 BST (UK) »
Hi again

OK! I've have been on contact with the Huddersfeld register office by phone and they have checked there records index for Joseph Penningting and variations of spelling of and there was not a recorded entry of a Joseph Pennington death 1840 aged 47 in Huddersfield.

I have phoned the Sheffield register office about this Ecclesfield death of a Joseph Pennington (No age given) in 1840, With there records being so big being a city they had not the time to check but as you live in Australia, they will refund your money in full if the death certificate is the wrong one for the Ecclesfield entry 1840 if you buy the certificate off them in Sheffield (Not the GRO online Southport)

You will have to cover postage charges though if it the wrong Joseph death

https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/your-city-council/register-office/register-office-contact-details.html

Wakefield archive WYAS and the Sheffield archives will have any coroner records that survived in the 1840's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_Archives
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Re: GRO lookup
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 25 April 13 14:22 BST (UK) »
Hi

Are you sure that Sheffield is correct? According to FreeBMD the registers are currently held at Barnsley and Wakefield depending upon which part of Ecclesfield Registration District the death occurred.

Andy