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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #27 on: Monday 22 April 13 17:05 BST (UK) »
Burial at Brackley.

Brackley P.C.
Pg. 168, No. 1340

Mary Burgoyne, January 16th 1848 aged 66.

Mary was more than likely the Mother of Comfort's husband John.

This may help other folk who also maybe related to the families.

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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #28 on: Monday 22 April 13 18:19 BST (UK) »
So, if Comfort wasn't buried in those few years when she disappears, then maybe she left the workhouse - leaving Elizabeth there. Maybe she left with another man and took his name.....
(who knows, maybe if she was starting a new life, she may have taken the opportunity to have dispensed with the name 'Comfort' too, I think I would!)
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #29 on: Monday 22 April 13 18:29 BST (UK) »
I couldn't agree more.  ;D

As she came to the House of Correction in Northampton
it would have been easy to disappear in a large town.

I can not see a burial for her in the Town Chuches and as
we know folk often found new partners and called themselves
husband and wife without the legal certifcate.

Poor Elizabeth left in the Workhouse in Brackley.

I do hope we can find out some more.

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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 23 April 13 02:43 BST (UK) »
You people are absolute machines :) I truly do appreciate all of your ideas & help.

I could only find one baptism of a child Henry to them.
Brackley P.C.
Pg. 22, No. 169
Bap Feb 15th 1860, Born 25th Jan 1860
Henry to William and Elizabeth Warr, Brackley, Labourer
I looked until 1868.

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There is also a child named Frederick Warr baptised on Mar 2, 1862 in Turweston, Buckingham parents listed as William & Elizabeth Warr. And he died in the Apr qtr of 1870 at Winkfield, Easthampstead, Berkshire. Which then allowed me to find Alfred Warr who later on becomes Alfred Colimer Ward here in Australia. He was born in the May qtr of 1871 in Winkfield, Easthampstead, Berkshire, England (3 weeks old on Apr 2, 1871 Census night).

In a few of the replied posts the name Susannah has been mentioned. On John & Comfort's marriage record the witnesses were Benjamin Durran & Susannah Durran. Both John & Benjamin signed their names where Comfort & Susannah marked it with a 'X'. I wonder if Comfort & Susannah were sisters?  I realise that education was not on the list of priorities but to have 2 husbands that were literate enough to write their own names & 2 wives that couldn't, could I be on to something?????


P.S - My bad., the name mentioned was Sarah not Susannah, sorry.
Burgoyne - Brackley, Northampton, UK.
Hayne - Northampton, UK.
Ward - Brisbane & Rockhampton, Australia.
Whelan/Whalen - Sleaty, Ireland.
Bergin - Birr, Ireland (Parsonstown).
Warr - Turweston, Buckinghamshire, UK.
Paul - Malstatt, Saarbrucken, Germany.
Schauff - Stommeln, Pulheim, Germany.


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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 23 April 13 03:15 BST (UK) »
In 1841, Ben Durran was recorded as Ben Durham, 30, tailor, with wife Susanna, 30, in Deddington, Oxfordshire, both born in county. An Anc'y user has corrected the name to Durran and called it a transcription error, which it isn't: the name Durham is very clear. So that user must know something. ;)

Several Anc'y trees (accessible free of charge by registering at www.mundia.com) have him. The first one I looked at (2433 people in it) shows him married to ... Susanna Durran. Not helpful! ... None of the others does any better.

But wait! The last one I looked at (with nearly 12000 people and sometimes they are the least reliable) has him married to Elizabeth HAINE. Hm hmm!

What they have done to FamilySearch in the last few days ... it's refusing to do anything for me now, but worth looking for a marriage.

Here we go, birth of son Benjamin 1840, mother Susanna. And other children:
Ann Lucy 1831
Mary Ann 1833
Jonathan 1838
Rebecca 1842
Sophie Ellen 1844

Not sure whether I've caught them all on a quick scan. All in Deddington, all with mother Susannah.

Aargh. Susanna is gone by 1851 so no chance to check her details.
Death 1849, Woodstock reg dist.


Benjamin and Susanna Durran had children born post-registration.

Rebecca Durran, Jun Q 1842, Woodstock 16 143

Get the birth certificate and find out who Susanna was!
I love spending other people's money. ;)

HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 23 April 13 04:17 BST (UK) »
Here's a wild theory for you.

1851 in Hook Norton, Oxfordshire, which is about 5 miles west of Deddington, Brackley being a little more than that ENE of Deddington.

C.B., female, 37 (c1814), lunatic

The head is just called Superintendant of Asylum, no name is given for the institution.

This designation would be consistent with her behaviour in the workhouse and with her daughter being abandoned there -- or with being a rebellious woman (although I don't think promiscuity would have merited committal to an institution for a working-class woman at that time -- but a husband might have had some authority especially if he did not want to support her).

When you got nothing, anything is worth a look!
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 23 April 13 07:19 BST (UK) »
Hi again lilpurplepearl.

I had exactly the same thoughts about Susannah yesterday afternoon. :)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,214533.0.html

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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 23 April 13 07:56 BST (UK) »
I think JaneyCanuck's find and idea is a very likely explanation .

I was looking for CB's in institutions only yesterday, thinking along the same lines.  But my geography let me down, as I only looked in Northamptonshire!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 23 April 13 09:35 BST (UK) »
Here's a wild theory for you.

1851 in Hook Norton, Oxfordshire, which is about 5 miles west of Deddington, Brackley being a little more than that ENE of Deddington.

C.B., female, 37 (c1814), lunatic

The head is just called Superintendant of Asylum, no name is given for the institution.

When you got nothing, anything is worth a look!


It certainly wouldn't surprise me. Would there be an index of inmate admissions at this asylum in Hook Norton?
Burgoyne - Brackley, Northampton, UK.
Hayne - Northampton, UK.
Ward - Brisbane & Rockhampton, Australia.
Whelan/Whalen - Sleaty, Ireland.
Bergin - Birr, Ireland (Parsonstown).
Warr - Turweston, Buckinghamshire, UK.
Paul - Malstatt, Saarbrucken, Germany.
Schauff - Stommeln, Pulheim, Germany.