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Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« on: Thursday 18 April 13 09:33 BST (UK) »
Salutations,

Just as I break down one brickwall, I go running full pace into another. I am searching for any information of my 3rd Great Grandmother Comfort Burgoyne nee: Hayne who I last see mentioned in the Northampton Mercury Newspaper Index in 1839;
Year: 1839
Subject Title: To The House of Corrections
Forename: Comfort
Surname: Burgoyne
Type: Misbehavior
Place: Union Workhouse
Place: Brackley
Notes: Comfort Burgoyne and Elizabeth Middleton, convicted of misbehavior in Brackley Union Workhouse.

After this I cannot find any documentation of a re-marriage or death or burial.
Comfort (I'm assuming) was born about 1815 in Brackley. She married John Burgoyne on Dec 12, 1836 in Brackley St Peter. Sometime between 1836 & 1839 she & John had a daughter named Elizabeth (my 2nd Great Grandmother) who was raised in the workhouse after her father refused to collect her. John was a journey man/basket maker & I have traced him through census & his death in 1895 in Godstone, Surrey but am still unable to find anything on Comfort.

Any information or leads as to what I can do to find her would be greatly appreciated.
Burgoyne - Brackley, Northampton, UK.
Hayne - Northampton, UK.
Ward - Brisbane & Rockhampton, Australia.
Whelan/Whalen - Sleaty, Ireland.
Bergin - Birr, Ireland (Parsonstown).
Warr - Turweston, Buckinghamshire, UK.
Paul - Malstatt, Saarbrucken, Germany.
Schauff - Stommeln, Pulheim, Germany.

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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 April 13 14:41 BST (UK) »
Hi
How does John describe himself in the census - married/widowed/single?
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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 April 13 14:51 BST (UK) »
I guess you have info on Elizabeth.

Married Brackley 31 Oct 1859 age 20 husband William Warr.
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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 April 13 14:58 BST (UK) »
There is only a small window of time in which anything could have happened to Comfort.

She is misbehaving in the workhouse in 1839, but is not listed in the census return for the workhouse in 1841.
Elizabeth Middleton is there, but is only age11.

And Elizabeth Burgoyne is there, age 5.

It would be worth contacting the relevant Local Record Office to see what workhouse records have survived. If they do hold any, you might get a clue as to whether Comfort died or was discharged.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
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Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 April 13 15:28 BST (UK) »
That sounds like the best idea  :)
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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 April 13 16:04 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth is still in the Brackley workhouse in 1851 and is listed as an orphan.
So that would seem as though her mum had died before that then?

Info about the Northampton record office.

http://www.northamptonshire.gov.uk/en/councilservices/Community/archives/Pages/Visiting-the-Record-Office.aspx
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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 April 13 16:11 BST (UK) »
Is she?
I must look again, I thought I found her elsewhere!!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 April 13 16:15 BST (UK) »
You are right -

Brackley Workhouse

It is indexed as 'apprentice' , rather than orphan ...........

HO107 1735 41
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Comfort Burgoyne (nee:Hayne) last mentioned in 1839
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 April 13 02:15 BST (UK) »
Hello & thank you to all who replied  :)

Milliepede - to answer your question about how John describes himself in the census is as follows.

1841: John Bergeyne, 21, basket maker, Southill, Bedfordshire.

1851: John Burgoine, 34, basket maker, single, lodging in Palace St, Biggleswade. Born Brackley, Northants.

1861: No census found for either him or my 2x Great Grandmother Elizabeth Warr (nee: Burgoyne).

1871: John Burgoyne, 55, widower, Basket maker born Brackley, Northants living in Oxted, Surrey.

1881: John Burgoyne, 63, unmarried,  Railway Labourer born Northamptonshire living in Oxted, lodger in Royal Oak, run by a basket maker/publican.

1891: John BURGYNS, 75, widower, born Brackley Northants, basket maker, lodging with an agricultural carter and his wife and blind son at New Zealand, The Village, Tandridge, Surrey.

Before I get off the topic of John, I will also mention his 2 appearances in the Northampton Mercury Index.
Year: 1842
Subject Title: Commitments To The County House of Corrections
Forename: John
Surname: Burgoyne
Type: Leaving child
Place:
Place: Brackley St. James
Notes: For two months for leaving his child chargeable to Brackley St. James

Year: 1843
Subject Title: Commitments To The County Gaol and House of Corrections
Forename: John
Surname: Burgoyne
Type: Leaving child
Place:
Place: Brackley St. James
Notes: For three months, for leaving one of his children chargeable to Brackley St. James.

I don't have any information of any other living children other than my Elizabeth.

The only information I am unable to find on Elizabeth is her birth/christening record, I still don't know what her birth date/year is. She died here in QLD, Australia in 1904 under the surname of Ward (that's another conundrum).

I have always thought (after reading books on workhouses) that children were separated from adults in the workhouses. And if that is the case, why would Comfort be arguing with an 11 year old child to begin with?
Burgoyne - Brackley, Northampton, UK.
Hayne - Northampton, UK.
Ward - Brisbane & Rockhampton, Australia.
Whelan/Whalen - Sleaty, Ireland.
Bergin - Birr, Ireland (Parsonstown).
Warr - Turweston, Buckinghamshire, UK.
Paul - Malstatt, Saarbrucken, Germany.
Schauff - Stommeln, Pulheim, Germany.